Re: It’s not Chinese propaganda, it’s HISTORY.
If that’s the case, then it shouldn’t be too difficult to come up with some links now, should it?
No, probably not. But my knowledge of history comes from textbooks, not the internet. If you want links, I'm sure you can Google the information you're looking for.
After the Mongol Köden took control of the Kokonor region in 1239, he sent his general, Doorda Darqan, on a reconnaissance mission into Tibet in 1240 to investigate the possibility of attacking Song China from the west. During this expedition the Kadampa monasteries of Rwa-sgreng and Rgyal-lha-khang were burned and 500 people were killed. The death of Ögödei the Mongol Qaghan in 1241 brought Mongol military activity around the world temporarily to a halt. Mongol interests in Tibet resumed in 1244 when Köden sent an invitation to Bengali scholar Sakya Pandit'ta, the leader of the Sakya sect, to come to his capital and formally surrender Tibet to the Mongols. Sakya Pandi'ta arrived in Kokonor with his two nephews Drogön Chögyal Phagpa ('Phags-pa; 1235-80) and Chana Dorje (Phyag-na Rdo-rje; 1239-67) in 1246. This event marks the incorporation of Tibet into China, according to modern Chinese historians.[citation needed] Pro-Tibetan historians argue that China and Tibet remained two separate units within the Mongol Empire.[citation needed] It may be more accurate, however, to characterize this as both China and Tibet being incorporated into the Mongol Empire, which became known as the Yuan Dynasty. During the Yuan Dynasty, the Mongolians conquered China. The Han Chinese was discriminated against that the Mongol Khubilai employed only Tibetans, Uyghurs, and other non-Chinese foreigners to rule over the majority—-the Han Chinese. In a delicate balance aimed at ruling both territories while preserving Mongol identity, Khubilai prohibited Mongols from marrying Chinese, but left both the Chinese and Tibetan legal and administrative systems intact.[43] Tibet never adopted the Chinese system of exams nor Neo-Confucian policies.
Sorry, but wikipedia’s reliability is suspect, especially with China employing many people on computers within the country to spread misinformation.
In January 1913 a bilateral treaty was signed between Tibet and Mongolia at Urga. In that treaty both countries declared themselves free and separate from China.
The Thirteenth Dalai Lama, having returned from India i.n January 1913, issued a formal declaration of the complete independence of Tibet, dated the eighth day of the first month of the Water-Ox year (March 1913). The document also clarified:
“Now the Chinese intention of colonising Tibet under the patron-priest relationship has faded like a rainbow in the sky”.
The Thirteenth Dalai Lama started international relations, introduced modern postal and telegraph services and, despite the turbulent period in which he ruled, introduced measures to modernise Tibet. On December 17, 1933 he passed away.
The following year a Chinese mission arrived in Lhasa to offer condolences, but in fact they tried to settle the Sino-Tibetan border issue. After the chief delegate left, another Chinese delegate remained to continue discussions. The Chinese delegation was permitted to remain in Lhasa on the same footing as the Nepalese and Indian representatives until he was expelled in 1949.
In September 1949, Communist China, without any provocation, invaded Eastern Tibet and captured Chamdo, the headquarters of the Governor of Eastern Tibet. On November 11, 1950, the Tibetan Government protested to the United Nations Organisation against the Chinese aggression. Although El Salvador raised the question, the Steering Committee of the General Assembly moved to postpone the issue.
On November 17, 1950, His Holiness the Fourteenth Dalai Lama assumed full spiritual and temporal powers as the Head of State because of the grave crisis facing the country, although he was barely sixteen years old. On May 23, 1951 a Tibetan delegation, which had gone to Peking to hold talks on the invasion, was forced to sign the so-called “17-point Agreement on Measures for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet”, with threats of more military action in Tibet and by forging the official seals of Tibet.
The Chinese then used this document to carry out their plans to turn Tibet into a colony of China disregarding the strong resistance by the Tibetan people. What is more, the Chinese violated every article of this unequal ‘treaty’ which they had imposed on the Tibetans.
On September 9, 1951 thousands of Chinese troops marched into Lhasa. The forcible occupation of Tibet was marked by systematic destruction of monasteries, suppression of religion, denial of political freedom, widespread arrests and imprisonment and massacre of innocent men, women and children.
On March 10, 1959 the nation-wide Tibetan resistance culminated in the Tibetan National Uprising against the Chinese in Lhasa. The Chinese retaliated with a ruthlessness unknown to the Tibetans. Thousands of men, women and children were massacred in the streets and many more imprisoned and deported. Monks and nuns were a prime target. Monasteries and temples were shelled.
On March 17, 1959 the Dalai Lama left Lhasa and escaped from the pursuing Chinese to seek political asylum in India. He was followed by unprecedented exodus of Tibetans into exile. Never before in their history had so many Tibetans been forced to leave their homeland under such difficult circumstances. There are now more than one hundred thousand Tibetan refugees all over the world.
It has been almost 40 years since Chinese occupied Tibet and the destruction of a unique
Culture is still going on Tibet, yet the world has not come in aid of Tibet, only lip service.
http://www.friends-of-tibet.org.nz/tibet.html
The same source also mentions that prior to the Mongol conquest, Tibet was always an independent country. After the Mongol conquest, they were both ruled by the Mongols as “colonies” or protectorates as the case might be.
Your argument is akin to the Canadians claiming control over the USA because both countries were ruled by the same colonial power a while ago....LOL
By your own post #47 your reading of history would justify Mongol claims to China. Or Chinese claims to Mongolia. Or Chinese claims to the ‘Stans (and yes, China is beginning to assert itself in the ‘Stans).
Or British claims to the US, since they’ve only been gone a couple hundred years.
The fact is that until the early fifties China never occupied Tibet. Tibet paid an annual fee to China to be left alone, and that ended in 1913.
Tibet was independent until the invasion of 1953. Chinese historians may differ. Pro-Chinese historians may differ, and pro-Chinese posters may differ as well. The fact remains that it ruled itself until 1953 when China invaded. If you disagree, who was the Chinese governor prior to 1953? Where were his Chinese troops garrisoned? There wasn’t one, and there weren’t any.
This thread is a pretty good litmus test, to see who comes out of the woodwork to defend Chinese claims to a country that has no desire to be Chinese and never did.
I see you are now using Wikipedia as a source since I used it a few days ago to counter your About.com unsourced history. LOL Pretty lame.