Sorry, your own Wikipedia source contradicts that.
The history of "China" is one of more unstable warring feudal states than that of Tibet. Chinese unity is a myth. There has been little continuity there.
Posted on 03/26/2008 8:54:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Countries urged to see 'true face' of Dalai Lama
By Qin Jize (China Daily)
Updated: 2008-03-26 07:10
Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang yesterday again urged the international community to see the Dalai Lama's "true face" and offer no support for his secessionist activities.
Qin made the remarks in response to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's recent call for China to consider a new policy to address the Tibet issue and to start talks with the Dalai Lama.
US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi also visited the Dalai Lama last week.
Qin said the position of just a few countries did not represent that of the international community.
More than 100 nations have expressed their support and understanding of the Chinese government's attitude to protecting the lives and property of its citizens from violent riots, he said.
Qin said the central government's policy toward the Dalai Lama is consistent and explicit, saying it not only listens to what he says but, more importantly, observes what he does.
China yesterday also criticized a British newspaper's report that linked the Beijing Olympics with the Berlin Games of 1936, saying the story is an insult to Chinese citizens and to the people of the world.
A report published in the British newspaper the Sunday Times said China is holding the Olympics for the same reason Adolf Hitler did in 1936, as an opportunity to collect accolades.
Qin said the Beijing Olympics is a magnificent sports meeting, and people from all nations have expressed their wishes to use it as an opportunity to enhance global understanding, friendship and cooperation.
"The Olympic torch symbolizes humankind's noble ideals and beautiful aspirations," Qin said.
" It also casts light on the gloomy mentality of some people, which will help the common people see their true face," he said.
"The Beijing Olympic Games must be a success with all the efforts made by the people of the
And now he reveals his prejudice towards Mormons and his hatred of America by comparing the Mormon’s experience in the United States to Tibetans living under Mao and the PRC. Apparently that Black Liberation Theology (read Marxist class warfare ideology) is more widespread than any of us had ever thought.
I hate to say this - but your English is quite poor. Are you really a native speaker or do you just play pretend on FR?
Quit posting the same link again and again. You’re fooling nobody with this propaganda.
BTW, the ChiCom trolls we tussle with on this forum are, usually, of much better quality. Looks like PLAN is being forced to send its second- and third-rate operatives to post on FR.
PGanini won’t be happy.
I see you are now using Wikipedia as a source since I used it a few days ago to counter your About.com unsourced history. LOL Pretty lame.
I think that history on Wikipedia is fairly decent. It matches pretty well what I have read in other accounts from Tibetan sources. If you read the paragraph in post #47 carefully it does not indicate a Han Chinese domination of political affairs in the least. It actually says the Mongols placed Tibetans and Uighurs in authority over the Han Chinese. The Yuan empire was Mongolian not Chinese.
Exactly! The question then becomes who has a greater claim over the U.S. the Brits or the Spanish? ROTFLOL
Sorry, your own Wikipedia source contradicts that.
The history of "China" is one of more unstable warring feudal states than that of Tibet. Chinese unity is a myth. There has been little continuity there.
The tyrant has to be agreeable to independence? I'm sure glad our Founding Fathers didn't think like that.
Spoken like someone who has never met a Tibetan.
There are Tibetans in government positions in Lhasa who will give you this line; and there are probably some Tibetans in Tibet who believe it. But again, for the vast majority of Tibetans, this is simply not part of the their experience. Get any Tibetan nomad, farmer, peasant, or monk a few hundred yards away from their local party cadre and the first thing they'll do is ask for a picture of the Dalai Lama; the second thing they'll do is ask you to help them free their country.
More foolishness. Only a ChiCom or a ChiCom apologist would use the word "splitist." (sic)
But again, the true testament to the fact that Tibetans have been far from content under Chinese rule lie in the actions of the people themselves. Ever since the Chinese invasion and occupation there has been substantial popular resistance to Chinese rule in Tibet. This resistance has taken many forms over the years - leafleting, public demonstration, mass non-cooperation, economic boycott, and armed uprising are all forms of protest have been practiced by Tibetans inside Tibet, at the risk of their own lives.
The only thing that’s lame around here are your critical thinking skills.
“Spoken like someone who has never met a Tibetan.”
You’re ASSumptions are incorrect. I’ve actually lived in China and know quite a few Tibetans from the Sichuan province.
More foolishness. Only a ChiCom or a ChiCom apologist would use the word "splitist." (sic)
But again, the true testament to the fact that Tibetans have been far from content under Chinese rule lie in the actions of the people themselves. Ever since the Chinese invasion and occupation there has been substantial popular resistance to Chinese rule in Tibet. This resistance has taken many forms over the years - leafleting, public demonstration, mass non-cooperation, economic boycott, and armed uprising are all forms of protest have been practiced by Tibetans inside Tibet, at the risk of their own lives.
I see you are now using Wikipedia as a source since I used it a few days ago to counter your About.com unsourced history. LOL Pretty lame.
Um, I hate to bust your little bubble, but I think everybody with access to the internet knows about Wikipedia. It's not exactly a secret. As for our arguement the other day, I noticed that you ran out of wind.
Can I just use the same canard that you do? I read a book. /s
You first.
2. Splitist, (sic) secessionist, etc, take your pick.
The only choices a ChiCom gives. Freedom fighter is more appropriate.
3. If you think the recent unrests are all about independence, you're even further out of your little mind than I thought.
What you think is of little value to anyone. Including yourself.
Interesting. Then why did you use About.com first, a completely unsourced reference, until I used Wikipedia? Were you just hoping I wouldn't find the Wiki link with its more accurate and lengthy sources? lol
I noticed that you ran out of wind.
As I have done on this thread, and as several others have, I drew you out to show your ignorance and prejudice. That's quite enough.
Can I just use the same canard that you do? I read a book. /s
Sure, but I doubt you can read - objectively anway. Besides, it was more like book(s). Chinese history was part of my studies in college.
HOpe you enjoyed your Book!
Comparing your posts to the article by Joshua Michael Schrei you clearly know far less about Tibetans and history. His writing shows a far greater objectivity, more detailed sourcing (he doesn't rely on "I have read") and a use of a reasoned faculty that you have no concept of and that isn't hard to see.
Interesting. Then why did you use About.com first, a completely unsourced reference, until I used Wikipedia? Were you just hoping I wouldn't find the Wiki link with its more accurate and lengthy sources? lol
No particular reason really. I couldn't care less what you find. Still waiting for something other than "Students for a free Tibet". LMAO!
As I have done on this thread, and as several others have, I drew you out to show your ignorance and prejudice. That's quite enough.
The only thing you've demonstrated is your own ignorance.
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