Posted on 03/21/2008 7:43:32 AM PDT by Red Badger
My pet peeve. What a disaster!
bump!
Part One implys there will be a Part Two, which I am looking forward to reading.
There are new technologies that will reduce the amount of energy to produce ethanol from corn. There are geneticly altered corn in development that will reduce the energy needed to break it down to ethanol. This coming year the planting of corn has increased ten folds (which will impact the cost of corn for fuel, feed and food) will lower the price of corn. Sizeable part of the cost of food prices is due to high gasoline prices (trucking costs) and to blame it all on corn prices (due to ethanol production) is faulty. New reports and studies on ethanol production reflecting the latest technologies indicate that the energy needed to produce ethanol versus energy produced by ethanol is at worst even. The price of ethanol versus gasoline is still volatile because the government mandates did not allow the farmers to ramp up production to meet the new incentives to produce. Once the farmers and crops catch up and stabilize, we will get a more accurate picture on the actually cost to consumers. Right now the ethanol costs will fluctuate, and taking a snap shot of the fluctuation to justify or condemn the technology is not accurate. Based on technology, farm capability and once we get thru the fits/starts of the transition period, ethanol will be cost compatible against gasoline. Finally, I would like to point out to those freepers that like to compare the cost of gasoline against the snapshot data picking of ethanol, have these freepers factored in the costs of maintaining a military force in the Middle East to safeguard our main source for oil????
I drove by 20 miles of newly planted corn fields here in NC yesterday to get to the grocery store for some things. One of the first items I viewed in the produce section was a package of three small, maybe 6 inch long, ears of corn. Price $3.75. I would assume they are still there on the shelf.
TEN TIMES the present acreage?
From an estimated 92.9 million acres in 2007 to 929 million acres in 2008?
That's good news for consumers - corn will sell for about 20 cents a bushel.
His comments on "Oil Addiction," coupled with his willingness to sign legislation outlawing perfectly good light bulbs as welll as proposing and supporting a substantial INCREASE in Ethanol use--not to mention his approval for mandated increased fuel efficiency, leaves me wondering what he's been smoking and has he been inhaling???
Typical of most if not all of the Green Weenies’s wonderful concepts.
Mythanol may be the worse yet.
If the lack of DDT doesn’t kill babies and innocents in the third world, now they may starve to death due to shortages of grain to make mythanol.
Watch the two faced freepers with jobs or more in the Mythanol bs tell us how stupid we are.
There IS a PART TWO at the pdf link..........
Biofuel mandates are madness. The mandates are just a central plan, the antithesis of market development. The defenders of biofuel mandates are hypocrites, defending a central plan to boost their industry at the expense of the rest of the country. The mandates and subsidies are just another entitlement, buying votes in the farm states while preventing viable energy solutions.
Part Two followed Part One. You may have been reading too fast and didn’t notice it.
I have always been convinced that the usefulness of C2H4OH as an energy source has been overblown. Ethanol is for drinking, not driving.
Explain to me the problem of methanol compared to Ethanol...
Methanol can be made from garbage.. scraps of food, wood, coal, waste vegitation such as switchgrass and a whole host of other things.
Ethanol.. requires.. Corn.
Liberals will whine : why are food prices so high ?
Now there is something I can believe in.. pass the Jack Daniels please
I guess we need to rename the two-faced jerks, GRIEFERS. Stands for green freepers who have imbibed so much ethanol that their brain dead mutterings can only attempt to cause us all GRIEF.
Based on reports of well IP's in the Baaken horizontal oil play in ND, the first 30 wells to go onstream will probably produce more oil than all ethanol plants produce today. Initial Potential reports have varied from 1,700 BOD to 2,500 BOD, for Baaken wells. Griefers need to do the math and wake TFU.The Baaken oil play ALONE, should help to eliminate the idiotic idea that we can grow fuel. All Baaken oil is a NET ENERGY GAIN, not a heavily subsidized net energy LOSS.
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