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'Speak English' Signs OK at Philly Shop
Breitbart ^ | 3/19/08 | PATRICK WALTERS

Posted on 03/19/2008 8:30:48 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The owner of a famous cheesesteak shop did not discriminate when he posted signs asking customers to speak English, a city panel ruled Wednesday.

In a 2-1 vote, a Commission on Human Relations panel found that two signs at Geno's Steaks telling customers, "This is America: WHEN ORDERING 'PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH,'" do not violate the city's Fair Practices Ordinance.

Shop owner Joe Vento has said he posted the signs in October 2005 because of concerns over immigration reform and an increasing number of people in the area who could not order in English.

Vento has said he never refused service to anyone because they couldn't speak English. But critics argued that the signs discourage customers of certain backgrounds from eating at the shop.

Commissioners Roxanne E. Covington and Burt Siegel voted to dismiss the complaint, finding that the sign does not communicate that business will be "refused, withheld or denied."

In a dissenting opinion, Commissioner Joseph J. Centeno said he thought the signs did discourage some customers.

"The sign appeared immediately above another sign that had the following words: 'Management Reserves the Right to Refuse Service,'" Centeno wrote.

Geno's and its chief rival across the street, Pat's King of Steaks, are two of the city's best known cheesesteak venues. A growing number of Asian and Latin American immigrants have moved into the traditionally Italian neighborhood in recent years.

Vento had threatened to go to court if he lost. His attorney, Albert G. Weiss, said he was "pleasantly surprised" by Wednesday's decision.

"We expected that this was not going to go our way," Weiss said.

In February 2007, the commission found probable cause against Geno's for discrimination, alleging that the policy discourages customers of certain backgrounds from eating there.

The case went to a public hearing, where an attorney for the commission argued that the sign was about intimidation, not political speech. The matter then went to the three-member panel for a ruling.

W. Nick Taliaferro, the commission's executive director, said he would not appeal.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; englishonly; genos; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; language; ruling; workplace
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1 posted on 03/19/2008 8:30:48 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

The first flower of common sense after a long drought.


2 posted on 03/19/2008 8:32:01 PM PDT by Loud Mime (If Muslims love death, why do they have hospitals?)
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To: kiriath_jearim
EXCELLENT NEWS!
3 posted on 03/19/2008 8:32:35 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day

Finally! Some good news from the invasion of the criminal aliens.

Related: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1988435/posts


4 posted on 03/19/2008 8:33:56 PM PDT by upchuck (Who wins doesn't matter. They're all liberals. Spend your time and money to take back Congress.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

This one victory by a “defendant” accused by the Philadelphia Human Rights Commission or whatever they call themselves is one more victory by a defendant than has been seen in the entire history of the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

While this is a good victory, we must be forever vigilant against these fascist Commissions and the supporters of these inquisition panels.


5 posted on 03/19/2008 8:35:07 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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This is awesome news, I would luv to go up the owner and shake his hand...


6 posted on 03/19/2008 8:35:36 PM PDT by Poetgal26 (God bless the US Military and our vets!)
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To: upchuck

Thanks! This news made my night.


7 posted on 03/19/2008 8:36:18 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: kiriath_jearim
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Gibberish is NOT spoken here... so if you want to eat here SPEAK ENGLISH!!!
8 posted on 03/19/2008 8:37:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: kiriath_jearim
A message to the multiculturals:


9 posted on 03/19/2008 8:37:44 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Loud Mime

I’ve never had a real philly cheesesteak from Philly... I’ll be they test better than what we have here. (I’m in Kansas)


10 posted on 03/19/2008 8:37:49 PM PDT by lmr (The answers to life don't involve complex solutions.)
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To: lmr

Make sure to get cheez whiz when you go


11 posted on 03/19/2008 8:40:26 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: kiriath_jearim
Vento has said he never refused service to anyone because they couldn't speak English. But critics argued that the signs discourage customers of certain backgrounds from eating at the shop.

Have these jackwits heard of the reserved right of every business to refuse service to anyone? Sheesh!

12 posted on 03/19/2008 8:41:36 PM PDT by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: kiriath_jearim
In a 2-1 vote, a Commission on Human Relations panel found that two signs at Geno's Steaks telling customers, "This is America: WHEN ORDERING 'PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH,'" do not violate the city's Fair Practices Ordinance.

Appointed political hack bureaucrats making legal findings. Sounds like the former USSR or the NWO EU.

13 posted on 03/19/2008 8:43:07 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If whites spew hate, Obama calls it hate speech, when his pastor says it, he calls it anger speech.)
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To: lmr

Geno’s is the “Right” Deli, Pat’s across the street is the “Left” Deli. BTW the thug that attacked them in Dec has been arrested.

http://blogs.menupages.com/philadelphia/2008/01/genos_steaks_suspect_arrested.html


14 posted on 03/19/2008 8:44:05 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: kiriath_jearim
This is great news but I still think Tony Luke's, at Front and Oregon, offers a far superior cheesesteak.
15 posted on 03/19/2008 8:48:03 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: kiriath_jearim

It’s pathetic we are even debating this kind of thing. Just PATHETIC!


16 posted on 03/19/2008 8:48:10 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: lmr

My wife, born in Philly, introduced me to the Philly Cheesestake sandwich over thirty years ago … greatest meal on a roll in the world. ;-)


17 posted on 03/19/2008 8:49:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"We expected that this was not going to go our way," Weiss said.

The little brown shirts on this panel didn't want this particular outrage coming under any more public attention lest some of their other Fascistic, stiff armed saluting ordnances get exposed to the light of day. At least that would be my guess. :-)

18 posted on 03/19/2008 8:51:00 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
In a 2-1 vote, a Commission on Human Relations panel...

Frightening to realize that freedom of speech hinges on a single vote!

19 posted on 03/19/2008 8:52:29 PM PDT by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon.)
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To: lmr

I think it’s overrated (Geno’s and Pat’s). They’re good steak sandwiches but not the best I ever had. There’s a few other places in South Philly with better ones imo.


20 posted on 03/19/2008 8:58:24 PM PDT by Twink
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