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Live Replay of SCOTUS Oral Arguments in DC v. Heller (2A case)
C-SPAN ^ | March 18, 2007 | C-SPAN

Posted on 03/18/2008 9:25:56 AM PDT by NinoFan

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; dc; guns; heller; parker; scotus
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To: NinoFan

I can exhale now!!! I hoped (and still hope) this doesn’t come up in 2 years.(more so ever)


501 posted on 03/19/2008 1:52:36 AM PDT by digital-olive
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To: Armedanddangerous; redgolum
I was listening to Armed Forces Network replay of NPR. Nina Totenberg sounded sick to her stomach in commenting on todays happening with regard to the S.C.

The gun grabbers had a bad day. Let us hope it continues.

502 posted on 03/19/2008 2:00:14 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: redgolum

It will stay good news until we get the ruling (probably late June). Then, either the partying will start, or there will be a run on guns like you have never seen. Make that guns and shovels.


503 posted on 03/19/2008 3:59:39 AM PDT by GnL
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To: El Gato
when he was trying to throw machine guns (assault rifles for example) under the bus, and at two, maybe more, Justices were trying to stop him. Even Ginsberg.

I'm not so sure that Ginsberg wasn't the most conservative regarding machine guns. She seemed to convey the idea that Miller supported use of common military arms whereas Scalia and Roberts were pushing protection of common-use civilian arms. Bizarre.

504 posted on 03/19/2008 4:24:50 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution)
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To: DCBryan1
"was stuck doing MOUT training all day."

And how did it go?

505 posted on 03/19/2008 5:13:30 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I’m not the one who wishes to give up his natural rights. ERGO, the burden is really on you.

However, just to be nice....

Under our present “system” a man is presumed to be innocent. Under our present “system” a man cannot have any of his rights removed from him without the due process of law. Under our present “system” anyone who is identified as a “nut job” does have his rights removed ALREADY. He is forbidden from even possessing any arms. And, I fail to see how making everyone give into your socialist demand for licensing and registration does anything to make America safer.

I assume that you don’t expect every right to be licensed. For instance, I assume that you feel free to speak, even if what you say is stupid. I assume that you feel free to own a car with government permission. Yet things people have said have started wars and led to the slaughter of millions. And stupid people with cars kill a lot more every year than “nut jobs” with guns.


506 posted on 03/19/2008 5:36:28 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: unspun
What would it be about people keeping their own arms that would necessarily serve to help a militia be more ‘well regulated?’

My old Army ROTC manual from the 60's (which I still have) defined "well regulated" in this context as "uniform in training and organization", in the sense of having a uniformly HIGH level of training and organization

The best way to become proficient in the use of arms is to USE them in day to day life, and from an early age. Go hunting. Go to the range. Take the kids shooting and train them in safe gun handling.

You CANNOT become well trained in the use of arms in a few weeks of boot camp, if boot camp was your first exposure.

507 posted on 03/19/2008 5:37:00 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Clump
I still stand by my statement. If citizens are banned from having firearms, what is to stop the government from becoming another Soviet Union/China/N. Korea/Vietnam/Cuba/etc.? People threatening to use their vote? Without the means to overthrow a tyrannical government, voting or anything else is meaningless. Also, there would be no way to end abortions as the government could force them (as China did).

Like I said before, there are other ways to end abortion. Haven't abortions been on the decline? That is because of education, abstinence, faith, etc.

As for God's punishment, I am not worried about it as I am not involved in it.

508 posted on 03/19/2008 6:15:32 AM PDT by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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To: unspun

Sorry, but after the way judges have wrongly handled so many important decisions (Miller, Roe, etc.) I don’t want there to be a chance for that to happen. I look at any law this way, if the Dems are in power how would they use it against me or other law abiding citizens?


509 posted on 03/19/2008 6:22:22 AM PDT by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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To: unspun

“No way I want just any of my neighbors to have machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers.”

You are starting to sound like one of the Brady bunch. Why do you fear your neighbors or are you just displacing your fear on them?


510 posted on 03/19/2008 6:24:16 AM PDT by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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To: unspun
No way I want just any of my neighbors to have machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers.

They all have cars, and can buy as much gasoline as they want, hundreds of gallons if they desire, without so much as showing their face inside the gas station.

I submit that this fact poses far more risk to you than your neighbors owning machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers would.

511 posted on 03/19/2008 6:36:07 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: BCR #226
In post 341, your comparison to driving is seriously flawed. Driving is a privledge that may be removed by the Government at any time

Just give the government another 50 years, and they'll convince you that gun ownership is also a privilege that may be removed by the government at any time, and you'll repeat their propaganda for them on that point as well..

512 posted on 03/19/2008 6:45:01 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Mr. Brightside

I hope Ron Paul never gets that opportunity. Not that he’d appoint bad judges but that would mean he would be president and that would be horrible. Just like having McCain as president would be horrible. He’s tried and has somewhat succeeded in destroying conservatism in the last 8+ years and isn’t going to stop when/if he becomes president. He’ll appoint a bunch of stupid moderates who’ll become liberals once they get in the Washington cocktail clubs.


513 posted on 03/19/2008 6:47:44 AM PDT by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: BOBWADE
Driving is not a right but a privlige. The 2nd amenment is regarding a right.

Did George Washington need to get permission from the government - with a written exam, eye test, and a tax - in order to drive his carriage from Valley Forge to Washington on public roads?

Like I said, give the government another fifty years or so and you'll be parroting "privilege not a right! Caw!" when it comes to guns as well, just like the Brits.

514 posted on 03/19/2008 6:55:00 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: BOBWADE
Add a motor? that is another Question entirely, I just know that the state reiterates time and time again that a license to operate a mother vehicle is a privilege.


515 posted on 03/19/2008 6:56:29 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: El Gato
He certainly was at first, but one of the Justices asked him to slow down, and that seemed to steady him somewhat.

I smiled when I heard that - it reminded me of my first traffic court appearance fighting a ticket. I can only imagine how much more nerve-wracking it must be at one's first appearance before the United States Supreme Court, let alone for a watershed case such as this.

516 posted on 03/19/2008 7:03:28 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: unspun

Criminals were not allowed to have firearms, etc. when they were being punished. After they were done they were given their firearms back.

Not sure about the mentally ill people, haven’t read a whole lot about them. I thought they were sent to institutions, which would be no different than being sent to jail (no firearms). I believe that if they were released from the institutions they were deamed safe and were allowed to own firearms.


517 posted on 03/19/2008 7:37:59 AM PDT by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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To: unspun

That also brings up another issue, if they are considered unsafe to own a firearm they are unsafe to be walking the streets. If they are safe enough to drive, have knives/baseball bats/golf clubs/hammers/crowbars/etc. they are safe enough to have firearms.


518 posted on 03/19/2008 7:40:33 AM PDT by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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To: LTCJ
as they don't do it with anything more powerful than what's commonly available to the average civilian. And, by the way, machine guns (or anything else we decide isn't OK) aren't commonly available since the law makers say they can't be.

LOLO I screamed that at my monitor at least three times while listening ...

519 posted on 03/19/2008 7:41:32 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: supercat
Bingo supercat... I tire of the 'driving is a priveledge drivel as I am being denied 'freedom of association' etc as well as restricted from many interstate travels [bridges]...

the 'herd everybody' into the controlling cities mentality which says that freedom really means 'walking' distance is absurd...

LFOD...

520 posted on 03/19/2008 7:47:46 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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