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Have Rush Limbaugh and GOP Crossovers Helped Revive a Nightmare Ticket?
North Star Writers Group ^ | March 10, 2008 | David Karki

Posted on 03/10/2008 5:29:52 AM PDT by Dukes Travels

After Tuesday's primaries it's official – Hillary Clinton has gotten up off the mat, and an opportunity to possibly finish her off has gone by the wayside. Just how much, if at all, this might have been due to Republican crossover voting in Texas is unclear. But one thing is not: The chances of a potential Clinton/Obama unity ticket, which would have the best shot of all possible tickets of spelling doom for the GOP in November, have just gotten better.

Yes, there is still the possibility of a Democratic civil war and intra-party meltdown, which was apparently the point of conservative crossover voters trying to keep Sen. Clinton's candidacy alive. Mathematically, it appears almost certain that neither she nor Sen. Obama can obtain the number of delegates needed to prevent a brokered convention and keep the nomination from going to the superdelegates to decide. But to presume that this will automatically get the fur flying is presuming a bit too much.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; hillary; limbaugh; nobama; obama; rush; talkradio
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To: LucyJo

Rush admits it. “Extend the infighting”, “chaos til the end”, “bloody up the convention”.
Yea, real fun.


61 posted on 03/10/2008 6:39:35 AM PDT by jackv (DEMOCRATS HATE BUSH MORE THAN THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY!!!)
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To: jackv

Seems a more accurate description of Republicans, actually.


62 posted on 03/10/2008 6:40:50 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

McCain has a proven track record of supporting, even actively pushing through that Marxist agenda. I see no reason to believe he will not do the same as president. He sacrifices principle to get his name on legislation that is bad for the country. You will see more McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy, McCain/Lieberman type legislation that the Republicans in the House and Senate will feel somewhat obligated to support (think the prescription drug plan).


63 posted on 03/10/2008 6:42:15 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Ingtar

Get over yourself.


64 posted on 03/10/2008 6:43:06 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’d rather wake up and find this is all a nightmare.


65 posted on 03/10/2008 6:44:39 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: arthurus
Clintons are heavily implying the back-of-the-bus thing without Hussein having to say a thing,

Most sheeple wouldn't pick up on that without the MSM sharing that with them.

66 posted on 03/10/2008 6:44:48 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Ingtar

Reality is, John McCain is the nominee.

The other equally important reality is, John McCain is running against Marxists.

As much as you might have your undies in a bunch about John McCain, one thing John McCain is most certainly not, is a Marxist. As I recall, he was on the wrong end of AK-47’s in Vietnam. Fighting Marxists.

Hysteria helps nobody.

Except of course, the opposition.

Don’t become the opposition, in your own party.

(yes, it still is!)


67 posted on 03/10/2008 6:47:54 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The John McCain from the last eight years is not nearly the John McCain in Vietnam.


68 posted on 03/10/2008 6:49:31 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Why do you find it necessary to spout your opinions along with insults? Rants? Uninformed? LOL!

Oh, that's right. Anything you don't agree with or that you think you have some facts to refute is these things.

Have a nice day.

69 posted on 03/10/2008 6:50:08 AM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Nope. I don't think she has more appeal but I do think her opponent has less appeal and the economy, W's low opinion polling, the Reps miserable performance while in control of the Congress and, to some degree, the War will all help her improve on her HINO’s record.
70 posted on 03/10/2008 6:53:28 AM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: Ingtar
How about you direct all that (whatever it is) to lobbying for a winning VP?

(Plan B)



71 posted on 03/10/2008 6:54:35 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Ingtar
McCain has a proven track record of supporting, even actively pushing through that Marxist agenda. I see no reason to believe he will not do the same as president. He sacrifices principle to get his name on legislation that is bad for the country. You will see more McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy, McCain/Lieberman type legislation that the Republicans in the House and Senate will feel somewhat obligated to support (think the prescription drug plan).

This is the crucial point, not who do we personally like better but who will do the most damage to the Country if elected.

Republicans always seem to do better in opposition than they do when they lead. If Hillary or Obama were elected, there is a fair chance that Republicans in Congress will unite against passage of the most egregious Democrat Bills. Look what they've been able to do recently with their control of Congress.

If McCain is elected, he will support the most egregious of the Democrat bills, as he has in the past, and the likelihood is that enough Republicans in Congress will support him to pass the Democrat bills.

Whether you agree or not, a good argument can be made that McCain is the greatest danger to our Country and, most certainly, would destroy the Republican party. But then, with 25+ million newly amnestied Democrat voters, conservatives, and the Republican party, will be inconsequential.

72 posted on 03/10/2008 6:56:35 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Crimson Elephant

I tend to agree a BHO and HRC ticket would be a disaster for the Dems. They have to get a moderate to balance out the socialism.

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The only problem I see with your argument is socialism. The two dem candidates are both promoting socialism of our health care system. And their party does not blink an eye!

Why would they need a moderate to balance out anything? They don’t have the pub vote, the conservative vote, the military vote etc. Moderates and Independents seem to have latched onto McCain and will most likely stay there.

They really don’t stand much to gain by going with the conventional wisdom and running to the middle.

What do you think?


73 posted on 03/10/2008 7:02:51 AM PDT by navymom1 (Freedom is Talk Radio. Defeat the Fairness Doctrine.)
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To: Dukes Travels

Three more months of Democrat Party bloodletting.

We Got What We Wanted: Chaos

Don't Doubt the Limbaugh Effect: Sound bites prove our strategery worked perfectly.

Listeners Upset with the Host: Not everyone loves the Hillary crossover strategery.
74 posted on 03/10/2008 7:07:33 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Dukes Travels
A nightmare ticket? A man with a Muslim name, no experience running on “idea empty” who is THE most liberal senator in America and a supporter of euthanizing inconvenient born babies AND the most hated person ever put up by a major party - is THAT “nightmare ticket?” I call that my dream ticket.
“Oh Obama will get EVERY Black vote in America!”
The Democrats already do and they lost the last two elections.
Twenty percent of White Democrats ADMIT they won't vote for Obama.
Forty six percent say they would NEVER vote for the beast. Forty three percent say the same about Barack McGovern Obama
while just thirty four percent say that about McCain.
I think the nightmare will be the rat's nightmare, not mine.
75 posted on 03/10/2008 7:07:42 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: navymom1

I think Obama still believes he can hide the socialism with the help of the media and the vagueness of his speeches. He is banking on the country being so upset with Bush that they fill in what they want to hear with him. A moderate VP would help them along. Most people don’t look very deeply into the records of politicians, even in the center or on the right.

HRC is another matter, I don’t think she can win no matter what she does.

Obama MIGHT be able to snow enough people in the middle and then turn out more voters.

The real danger with Obama is him bringing a wave of new voters along with a depressed GOP turnout.


76 posted on 03/10/2008 7:11:56 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Dukes Travels

Both rat tickets are nightmares. The Repub ticket is just a bad dream.


77 posted on 03/10/2008 7:15:35 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus on global warming skeptics: "a whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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To: Dukes Travels

They should just be done with it and have McCain ask Hillary to be his VP and her ask McCain to be her VP. Either way we are the losers, but it would shore up their power grab.


78 posted on 03/10/2008 7:16:24 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: TCats
IMO Obama is easier to beat (If McCain can beat ANYBODY) and not stopping the Clintons at the first opportunity is a very big mistake.

Agree. I crossed over (in Va) to vote for Obama, for that reason.

Rush DID affect the crossover vote in TX, shifting it from about 75-25 Obama to 52-48 Hillary, as far as I can surmise.I think that gave Hillary her margin of victory, and therefore the psychological boost. So the Rush factor was very significant.

79 posted on 03/10/2008 7:22:20 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: Dukes Travels

I think McCain is also a nightmare ticket. For the GOP itself, it is probably a bigger nightmare than Hillary/Obama because the negative effects will last longer.


80 posted on 03/10/2008 7:25:26 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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