Posted on 03/07/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by GVnana
(03-07) 13:37 PST SACRAMENTO -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger promised today to ensure that parents have the right to homeschool their children, after a state appeals court ruling severely restricted the practice in California.
"Every California child deserves a quality education and parents should have the right to decide what's best for their children," the governor said in a statement. "Parents should not be penalized for acting in the best interests of their children's education. This outrageous ruling must be overturned by the courts and if the courts don't protect parents' rights then, as elected officials, we will."
An estimated 166,000 children are homeschooled across the state.
The ruling by the Second District Court of Appeal in Los Angeles said all children ages 6 to 18 must attend public or private school full-time until graduation from high school or be tutored at home by a credentialed teacher.
The Southern California case stemmed from a child welfare dispute involving the children of Phillip and Mary Long of Lynwood (Los Angeles County). The couple's eight children have been home-schooled by Mary Long, who holds no teaching credential. The children were also enrolled in a private school through an independent study program, which included quarterly home visits. Although the case did not involve the question of the children's truancy, the court decision broadly addressed the legality of homeschooling in California while specifically ruling that the Long family's situation violated state law.
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IMHO In California all elected or appointed officials and should be required to take, pass and publicize the score on the CBEST test before the can publicly speak or vote on education issues. We need to add judges to this too. It might not make them any smarter but it would sure shut allot of them up. I don’t think everybody in congress could pass.
“IMHO In California all elected or appointed officials and should be required to take, pass and publicize the score on the CBEST test before the can publicly speak or vote on education issues. We need to add judges to this too. It might not make them any smarter but it would sure shut allot of them up. I don’t think everybody in congress could pass.”
LOL!
excellent solution!
You won’t encounter a lot of teachers that have a depth in math and science when teaching these classes in Pub School. Kind of like the Coach teaching Health. Regardless, the Ed students I’ve encountered in College haven’t instilled me with much confidence for their teaching ability.
Our homeschool has a BA in Art doing most of the teaching.
She has on call a BS/MS Nuclear Engineer and MS Mathematical Finance to help out.
In reality, homeschools don’t need this kind of firepower. What they have on their side instead are parents that care and are deeply involved in the education of their children.
These parents have excellent curricula to pull from with homeschool designed teacher guides. The Moms are very capable with these tools to keep up with the subject matter.
Like that insipid ad the teacher’s union keeps running on conservative talk radio for the past umpteen years... “and no child succeeds alone!”
A teaching degree is for those that are having to wrestle with 30 ill-behaved kids, and trying to get ALL to learn the same material using one or two methods at most - not tailored towards the children. Our schools would be in much better shape if it weren’t for the NEA and politicians trying to tell teachers how to do their jobs.
Now, you think that the government extending its hands into homes as well, will improve things? Your comment shows incredible ignorance.
Yeah right! Dreamer!!!
As does your response. Read more carefully, grasshopper.
“””A credentialed teacher AIN’T gonna come and educate my child for free,” Long said”””
Uh. ok.
As for the article, Arnie doesn’t like the ruling then change the law so parents have the right to homeschool. As it stands now the law dictates a child has a right to legal education. Legal education does not cover homeschooling unfortunately. He can easily have that changed.
I did notice that you said “costly and time-consuming”. So I deliberately added how easy they are to get, because it would be even more difficult to, for example, get a masters degree in petroleum engineering if it were required to teach. For homeschoolers stuck in California and unwilling to move, a parent can easily get a credential, if they so desire. And with one income, grants could cover part of the cost for most middle income families.
I would think that moving, however, would be a better option. There are many reasons to leave California and this just adds to it.
If this is the case then I stand by my Friday rants about California's poorly written homeschooling code.
As an outsider to the California homeschooling issue, I examined some of California's homeschooling code, deciding it to be badly written and ambiguous. The truth of the matter is that anybody can read anything that they want into poorly written code, the judges having the upper hand in this case. In other words, California's poorly written homeschooling code was a lose canon just waiting to be bumped in the right way and go off, which it has.
So instead of blaming the judges for their badly written code, Californians need to quit sitting on their hands and use their voting muscle to clean up the code, in my opinion.
As a side note, when the USSC decided against Georgia in Chisholm v. Georgia, 1793, the states retaliated against the USSC by making the 11th Amendment. Again, Californian's should perhaps retaliate against anti-homeschooling judges by cleaning up their dirty homeschooling code.
Well ARNULD needs to know that when you dance with the far left this is what can happen. As the good book says you reap what you sow.
I can agree with you on that point. Homeschoolers should act immediately.
One can easily become a teacher just by going to two years of community or technical college & maybe taking a psychology course.
Even if this is an example of “a broken clock is right twice a day”,
good for Arnold on this issue.
Whoa! You really don't have a clue, do you? The requirements for getting teaching credentials require no real knowledge whatsoever, just lots of leftist mumbo-jumbo about "educational theory". Some years back, Massachusetts became sufficiently alarmed that they tried to institute a "basic skills" test as a requirement for getting a teaching certificate. It was keyed to the 6-7th grade level -- IOW, the prospective teacher had to demonstrate that their OWN academic competence was at least at that grade level. The union fought like hell and prevented the state from requiring existing teachers to pass it, but lost on the issue of new teachers applying for credentials in the state for the first time.
So you might think that now all public school teachers in Massachusetts can function at least at the 6-7th grade level. Wrong. Such a huge percentage of the would-be teachers -- most of them graduates of 4 year "teacher colleges" -- flunked the test that the state gave up, eliminated the requirement and gave them all teaching licenses anyway, since otherwise hundreds of classrooms would have been lacking babysitters the following year. Other states have had similar experiences, and I'm sure the lefty la-la land of California is no different.
Yeah.
What part of "know it before you teach it" do you not understand?
Projection works both ways, Zippy.
It didn't take much of a poke in the side to get you to reveal yourself to be a moron, doo dah. ; )
A collectivist moron.
Your claim that people should “know” something before they teach it has absolutely nothing to do with the court ruling that is the subject of this article. And your original claim that homeschooling parents ought to respond to this court ruling by “getting some credentials” implies that you agree with the ruling. The ruling is requiring somebody with a California teaching license to be directly involved with educating every child in the state. There is ZERO correlation between teaching credentials and actual subject knowledge. ZERO. The reason many parents are taking their kids out of public schools is that the teachers are ignoramuses. Many parents with nothing more than a GED are way ahead of many of the licensed teachers. Teacher colleges have rock bottom average standardized test scores for admission.
True story: The year before I went to college I spent a semester as a classroom teacher’s helper in an inner city Washington DC public school. The teacher was as well-meaning as you could want, but was a product of the DC public schools herself, followed by a 4 year degree at one of the teacher’s college programs in the area. She literally could not spell quite a number of the words that the she was supposed to be teaching the kindergarteners. She’d write them up on the blackboard in big clear printing, and they were flat-out wrong. THIS is what’s meant by “credentialled teachers”.
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