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Anti-War Judge Rejects Foster Teen's Bid to Join Military
L.A. Daily News ^ | 3/6/2008 | Dana Bartholomew

Posted on 03/07/2008 7:10:56 AM PST by Pyro7480

SIMI VALLEY - Shawn Sage long dreamed of joining the military, and watching "Full Metal Jacket" last year really sold him on becoming a Marine.

But last fall, a Los Angeles Superior Court commissioner dashed the foster teen's hopes of early enlistment for Marine sniper duty, plus a potential $10,000 signing bonus.

In denying the Royal High School student delayed entry into the Marine Corps, Children's Court Commissioner Marilyn Mackel reportedly told Sage and a recruiter that she didn't approve of the Iraq war, didn't trust recruiters and didn't support the military.

"The judge said she didn't support the Iraq war for any reason why we're over there," said Marine recruiter Sgt. Guillermo Medrano of the Simi Valley USMC recruiting office.

"She just said all recruiters were the same - that they `all tap dance and tell me what I want to hear.' She said she didn't want him to fight in it."

Sage, 17, said he begged for Mackel's permission.

"Foster children shouldn't be denied (an) ability to enlist in the service just because they're foster kids," he said. "Foster kids shouldn't have to go to court to gain approval to serve one's country."

Mackel, a juvenile dependency commissioner at the Children's Court in Monterey Park, declined through a clerk to speak about any court case or comments she may have made in court.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: blackrobedtyrants; blacrobedtyrants; california; fosterchild; judge; judicialtyranny; marines
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To: redstateconfidential
You guys line up now for the picture. Older members looking for ladies in the back row and fashion contestants in the front row. Say Cheese!
21 posted on 03/07/2008 7:28:14 AM PST by GestehenSieUndGibtAuf (Tagline here)
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To: kingu
Assemblyman Cameron Smyth introduced legislation last month that would allow foster teens to enlist in the service without express permission from a judge.

What are the chances of such a bill surviving in the Kalifornia Assembly?

22 posted on 03/07/2008 7:30:23 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: All

...dadaadaDAAAAAA.......mindcrime...


23 posted on 03/07/2008 7:32:10 AM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: paratrooper82

Ahh but you forget, they are smarter and better than us. we must be instructed and controlled by them because only they know the difference between right and wrong.


24 posted on 03/07/2008 7:32:22 AM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: Pyro7480

25 posted on 03/07/2008 7:32:33 AM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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To: aft_lizard

Both of your two sides have merit for further discussion, but of the two, the judge’s decision is WAY less reasonable.


26 posted on 03/07/2008 7:33:40 AM PST by DeLaine (Lord, help me to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.)
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To: Pontiac
What are the chances of such a bill surviving in the Kalifornia Assembly?

Pretty good chance of passing, actually. As cracked up as our state government is, you'll find that they actually support the military in this state - kinda hard not to, as it brings a lot of tax money into the state coffers.

27 posted on 03/07/2008 7:34:53 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Pyro7480
In denying the Royal High School student delayed entry into the Marine Corps, Children's Court Commissioner Marilyn Mackel reportedly told Sage and a recruiter that she didn't approve of the Iraq war, didn't trust recruiters and didn't support the military.

Mistrial!

28 posted on 03/07/2008 7:40:57 AM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: redstateconfidential
Here is the self righteous, self important one getting an award for being a bureaucrat from other bureaucrats.

Don't you just love how the libs constantly dream up ways to pat each other on the back?

29 posted on 03/07/2008 7:43:22 AM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: WVNan
Yeah, but where is the foster kid going get the wherewithall to overturn the decision?

A few calls to the O'Reilly and Hannity shows and this kid will have people lining up to help him.

30 posted on 03/07/2008 7:44:45 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Pyro7480

one wonders, can a judge in CA be removed from office?


31 posted on 03/07/2008 7:46:27 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Digital Sniper

The judge was stupid to interject her moronic political views into this decision. She could just as easily have said that it was a matter which could wait the however many months remain until the young man is 18 and left it at that. The appeal is pointless since it would likely take longer than his coming of age. Judges also routinely make unjust rulings against those they know can’t afford an appeal. Just because they can.
This dumbell set herself up for possible removal (hopefully) from the bench by shooting off her mouth about her personal views. Actually, she’s labelled herself an “activist judge” openly and publicly.


32 posted on 03/07/2008 7:47:08 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Pyro7480
a Los Angeles Superior Court commissioner dashed the foster teen's hopes of early enlistment for Marine sniper duty,

I am at a loss as to why this was before a Superior Court.

I would think that something like this would have been before a family court judge or a Juvenile Court Judge.

33 posted on 03/07/2008 7:48:42 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

34 posted on 03/07/2008 7:57:20 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Pork, just bring the hot sauce!)
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To: Pyro7480

Well, Sage, you are almost there - be patient, son, and when you hit 18, send her a card from boot camp. It might read, “one round, lock and load” or the sniper saying, “one shot, one kill.” Semper Fi from a Hollywood Marine - ‘69-’72.


35 posted on 03/07/2008 7:59:34 AM PST by MarkT
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

yes indeed, and these types of judges need to be impeached. They are going beyond upholding the spirit of the law and are ruining our country. Especially the supremes who have run over our constituiton with a mack truck while the weak congress refused to impeach the baby killers. That’s what those who voted for Roe are, plain and simple. They can repent and find a new life, but in the mean time they need to be thrown out on their butts...if any of the existing roe supporters are still on the court?


36 posted on 03/07/2008 8:05:43 AM PST by fabian
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To: wideawake

The legendary American filmmaker Samuel Fuller saw ‘Full Metal Jacket’ upon release and walked out muttering to a friend “Kubrick just another g%#-damned recruiting film.”


37 posted on 03/07/2008 8:08:23 AM PST by Borges
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To: redstateconfidential

White guys to the back! Minorities in tribal garb and moonbats to the front!


38 posted on 03/07/2008 8:17:01 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: camle
Good morning.
“one wonders, can a judge in CA be removed from office?”

Ask Rose Bird about that.

Michael Frazier

39 posted on 03/07/2008 8:29:36 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

The front row would be smiling even more if there was NO BACK ROW.


40 posted on 03/07/2008 8:33:16 AM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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