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Let Obama Be Obama
Primetime Politics ^ | March 6, 2008 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/06/2008 5:33:47 AM PST by Nony

Liberal Democrats from the North haven’t had much success in recent presidential elections — not Hubert Humphrey, not George McGovern, not Walter Mondale, not Mike Dukakis, and not John Kerry. Democratic southerners — Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton — have done quite a bit better.

Sen. Barack Obama, of Illinois, knows this history. So why does he think he can be the first Northern liberal Democratic president since John F. Kennedy edged out Richard Nixon almost a half-century ago?

First, there is no incumbent president or vice president running for the first time in over 50 years. Add a controversial war, an unpopular incumbent, and a shaky economy, and you’ve got a wide-open race full of voters rethinking things as never before.

Second, as the first African-American candidate to seriously contend for either party’s nomination, Obama offers Americans a sort of collective redemption at home and admiration abroad.

(Excerpt) Read more at primetimepolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; vdh; victordavishanson
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1 posted on 03/06/2008 5:33:47 AM PST by Nony
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To: Nony
. . . since John F. Kennedy edged out Richard Nixon . . .

Kennedy stole that election.

2 posted on 03/06/2008 5:51:59 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl

. . since John F. Kennedy edged out Richard Nixon . . .
Kennedy stole that election.


And he stole it in Illinois, hence B. Hussein has every reason to believe he could try the same formula.


3 posted on 03/06/2008 5:53:47 AM PST by Rippin
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To: sportutegrl

You beat me to it; I was going to say because Kennedy stole the election in Chicago, and Obama already has Chicago roots ;)


4 posted on 03/06/2008 5:54:06 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("Don't give up your ideals, don't compromise, don't turn to expediency..."Ronald Reagan, 1976)
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To: sportutegrl
Well, to be strictly accurate, the Daley family in Chicago stole it for Kennedy, and Kennedy didn't complain about it. Also, Nixon refused to contest the election so as to not tear apart the nation.

Many differences with today. Where are the moral men who would rather lose and election honorably than win it dishonorably?

The nation has been replaced by whining politicians who want to win at any cost and will use lawyers, inner city blacks, or any other measure to win.

The 2000 debacle in Florida revealed this in spades. The 2004 election, with lawyers poised to claim fraud in Ohio and Florida, even before the polls opened, is more evidence. And the Dems still tried the "fraud in Ohio" schtick in '04.

Sheesh ...

5 posted on 03/06/2008 5:56:46 AM PST by tom h
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

...”there is no incumbent president or vice president running for the first time in over 50 years.” Wow, I didn’t realize that.


6 posted on 03/06/2008 5:57:23 AM PST by VA_Gentleman (Does Mars have global warming too? Is that why they had an avalanche?)
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To: VA_Gentleman
Someone doesn't know the meaning of incumbent. It must be that high quality public education system at work. ;)

7 posted on 03/06/2008 6:03:05 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("Don't give up your ideals, don't compromise, don't turn to expediency..."Ronald Reagan, 1976)
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To: VA_Gentleman

...”there is no incumbent president or vice president running for the first time in over 50 years.” Wow, I didn’t realize that.

Yet another gross miscaulation by the boobs running the Republican party.

I’m a Cheney fan, but he should have stepped down a few years ago in lieu of a younger VP, in order to help secure the line of succession.


8 posted on 03/06/2008 6:05:04 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy

Absolutely not! The purpose of the VP is not to establish a line of succession. It’s to step in in case the president dies and in Pres. Bush’s case, it’s to serve very actively at the president’s discretion. He trusts Cheney, so Cheny needs to remain in that position.


9 posted on 03/06/2008 6:33:33 AM PST by twigs
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

I had forgot about the Chicago connection, but that makes it all the more possible.


10 posted on 03/06/2008 6:34:22 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

I had forgot about the Chicago connection, but that makes it all the more possible.


11 posted on 03/06/2008 6:34:30 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: twigs

The Constitutional purpose of the VP is, of course, as you mentioned, but in a PRACTICAL, political sense, the incumbent party has always used the vice-presidency as a leg-up for the party in the succeeding election.

The Republicans should have had a solid, young conservative like Rick Santorum assume the VP duties around 2005-2006.


12 posted on 03/06/2008 6:39:35 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy

Historically, few VPs make it to the presidency. These days, the best past is through a governorship.


13 posted on 03/06/2008 6:47:48 AM PST by twigs
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To: Nony

According to Saint Victor Davis of Hanson:

“In a broader sense, the pessimistic Obama theme is that elites have stacked the deck against the average Joe, who can’t get a doctor, pay for his children’s college education, or pay his mortgage. Therefore, we must take back more income from the better-paid and hire a lot more people in government like Barack Obama to more wisely administer the money.”

Obviously, VDH, up on his Mount Olympus, has no idea of the struggle working and middle-class people have to face every day, or he would never have made such a stupid, snide remark. Better he should go back to watching his “300” DVD.


14 posted on 03/06/2008 6:48:50 AM PST by paleorite
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To: tom h
Nixon refused to contest the election so as to not tear apart the nation.

Actually, he lost the popular vote by over 100,000, so that would have been a tough road to hoe, pragmatically speaking. Otherwise, Im sure Nixon would have done his darndest.

15 posted on 03/06/2008 6:55:18 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: paleorite
Obviously, VDH, up on his Mount Olympus, has no idea of the struggle working and middle-class people have to face every day, or he would never have made such a stupid, snide remark

Enlighten us, newbie, do "average Joes" need more government beauracrats and "a long laundry list of new taxes and social programs " ? Is the solution "more taxes on the wealthier for more government services for the majority along with trade protectionism as the proper antidote to our problems"?

Is that what youre saying, Newbie?

16 posted on 03/06/2008 7:10:51 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Nonstatist

You keep repeating the term “Newbie” as if this is some sort of union shop where seniority is all that matters. Are you some sort of labor goon?


17 posted on 03/06/2008 7:18:18 AM PST by paleorite
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To: paleorite

Answer the question. Whats the point of your diatribe, or is there one beside class resentment?


18 posted on 03/06/2008 7:32:44 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
because Kennedy stole the election in Chicago

And, don't forget West Virginia.
19 posted on 03/06/2008 7:35:18 AM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Nonstatist

—Answer the question—

Answer MY question. Is the middle and working class being raped economically or is it not?


20 posted on 03/06/2008 7:35:49 AM PST by paleorite
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