Posted on 03/05/2008 4:08:54 PM PST by Bokababe
I dont like either, but youre wrong.
You'r eright; the KKKlintlers, Albright, Clark, and everybody else responsible for the abomination which took place in 1999 should have been handed over to some sort of a REAL international war crimes tribunal.
wrong in your view yet right in so many others view
I would never say you are wrong or right but I will say this
why
They went to war without approvel from anyone and it wasn’t just a war it was to help ethnic cleansing
of course some of the sheep and easily led dweebs only think ethnic cleansing happened when the serb army went in because they believe the likes of our media and especially christina ammanpour
They were reponsible for thousenads of deaths, responsible for helping a band of islamic radicals to ethnic cleanse a part of a country to as those radicals could take a part of serbia over
What wesley clark and clinton did was absolutly no different to what milosovitz did
just because they decided to do it from the air doesn’t make it easier to ignore
I have been there while deployed and the few serbs left are living in fear because of what clinton and wesley clark did
Maybe some won’t look at it like that because they only go by what the media sayts, soome will think no Americans should ever be tried for war crimes
In the end when you take off the glasses what they did was wrong and has set a dangerous precedent for the future
exactly
those two roam around scott free yet they did the very same thing as to what other war criminals did except they did it from the air
Even more ironic is that wesley clark seems to think he is somoe sort of an hero
Welcome to the forum. :-)
‘You’r eright; the KKKlintlers, Albright, Clark, and everybody else responsible for the abomination which took place in 1999 should have been handed over to some sort of a REAL international war crimes tribunal.’
No such animal and not the forum the US should subject itself.
‘soome will think no Americans should ever be tried for war crimes’
I’m one of those. Our system works, not all the time but enough that compared to the rest of the world all the guilty are punished.
‘In the end when you take off the glasses’
Don’t wear them. I was AD during this time and thought it was a bad idea, but nobody asked me.
‘what they did was wrong and has set a dangerous precedent for the future’
No argument. BUT, Intl tribunals/courts that work are staffed by the winners, not some ‘neutrals’.
I have to disagree with that; Milosevic's actions involving Kosovo were fully justified.
That link is to a NYT artivcle from the 80s before there was any sort of an axe to grind on the issue wrt American politics. Articles from that time period from all sides basically indicate the truth of the matter, i.e. that Serbs are fairly normal, decent people as you would expect of Christians, and that Albanians are basically a bunch of savages, as is often normnal for slammites.
But, for most of the important years in question, subject to Austrian jurisdiction.
Just like Serbia was under Turkish administration. Your point?
Pre-WWII, all the Dalmatinci (people from Dalmatia) here in the US NEVER called themselves “Croatians” — always called themselves, “Dalmatians”. They didn’t even loosely identify themselves with Croatia until about the 1960’s, after their kids were sent off to university in Zagreb If you called any Dalmatian (or kid here with pre-WWII roots there), a “Croat”, it was usually grounds for a fight.
You have to understand, Dio, that pre-WWII, people didn’t really identify themselves with as large a whole of anything, geographically. They saw themselves as identified with more local territories, and secondarily with something bigger than than their local territory, but not the large geo-political national divisions we now see.
My father, who was from Boka Kotorska, swore until the day he died that he was NOT “a Montenegrin”. His friend, half- Croat & half-Albanian & Roman Catholic from Dubrovnik, always said that first he was a Dubrovcanin (from Dubrovnik) and second he was “Dalmatian” — Croatia didn’t even figure into the equation for him.
Croatians always wanted the Dalmatians as part of them, just as Montenegro always wanted the Bokezi, but both the Dalmatians and the Bokezi were always lukewarm about their identification with the Croatia or Montenegro — until the 1990s wars. At that point, the battle lines were drawn.
You’re bordering on the absurd, Banat is correct, you can’t be a history buff when basic tenants are incorrect.
If I were half Croatian and half Albanian I wouldn't want to admit that either, better off being a Cigan.
NDI Chair is Madeline Albright -- and it is all paid for by OUR tax dollars through the National Endowment for Democracy. Democrats have the NDI and Republicans have the IRI, chaired by John McCain.
Want to know where our backward ass Balkan policy is coming from? It's these two NGOs, whose leaders we didn't even elect, along with Soros' "Open Society Institute".
So, is it any surprise that there is financial cross-pollination between, McCain, Clinton, Obama & Soros? Nope!
Utter crap. I suggeset you take a look at ellisislandrecords.org and you'll see that the overwhelming majority of those that arrived at Ellis Island from Dalmatia called themselves Croatians.
They didnt even loosely identify themselves with Croatia until about the 1960s, after their kids were sent off to university in Zagreb If you called any Dalmatian (or kid here with pre-WWII roots there), a Croat, it was usually grounds for a fight.
It's amazing how you make this up. Simply amazing.
You have to understand, Dio, that pre-WWII, people didnt really identify themselves with as large a whole of anything, geographically. They saw themselves as identified with more local territories, and secondarily with something bigger than than their local territory, but not the large geo-political national divisions we now see.
Pure crap...especially considering that both sides of my family come from Dalmatia.
Croatians always wanted the Dalmatians as part of them, just as Montenegro always wanted the Bokezi, but both the Dalmatians and the Bokezi were always lukewarm about their identification with the Croatia or Montenegro until the 1990s wars. At that point, the battle lines were drawn.
Again, it's simply amazing how you make crap up and expect people who actually know the truth to believe it.
Too bad these self-haters can't find a way to get themselves exterminated as atonement for their "sins" that will leave the rest of us in peace.
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