Posted on 03/05/2008 1:35:29 PM PST by samrig
I don’t hate Paul. I’ve signed two of his petitions. I believe he hates the un almost as much as I do.
How seriously do you take the Constitution? The Preamble says that the ultimate goal of the document is "to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves AND OUR POSTERITY."
You do understand that the word posterity means "those who are not yet born," correct?
The Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments clearly protect the lives of those who have not been charged, tried and convicted on a capital offense.
Do you think babes in the womb are PERSONS? Because, even Judge Blackmun admitted that if they are, they are protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.
That's why I say that those who claim that unborn children ARE persons, but that states' rights trump the unalienable right to life, are WORSE than Blackmun.
The nominee is McCain.
Thanks for playing.
(Yes, I voted for Paul.)
Paul is a Doctor that has delivered, supposedly, over 4000 babies. He is very pro-life.
I think conservatives will, when all is said and done agree with federal restrictions against abortion, including the partial birth abortion ban.
Even Ron Paul voted for it but he did say this:
“Despite its severe flaws, this bill nonetheless has the possibility of saving innocent human life, and I will vote in favor of it. I fear, though, that when the pro-life community uses the arguments of the opposing side to advance its agenda, it does more harm than good.”
I would prefer to see a Human Life Amendment, but practically speaking it isn’t going to happen for a long time if at all.
We have abortion, homosexuality, pornography and drug abuse because of the destruction of Biblical church, family and individual governance, a destruction brought about by a number of factors, including:
- most churches no longer preach the Gospel
- our socialist gov’t schools are pagan academies
- the welfare state destroys the nuclear family
- the media
- anti-family judiciary
- etc.
No matter what we do at the federal, state or local level, the abominations that we see and hear about daily will not end until we address the root of the problem. We cannot restore proper church, family & individual governance unless we reduce the unconstitutional intrusion of the federal & state governments into areas where they have absolutely no business or jurisdiction. Dr. Paul understands this, and for proof I strongly recommend that you listen to his interview with John Lofton on the American View a few months ago.
Abortion is one of the innumerable issues the Constitution leaves to the States. Read the 10th Amendment. There is no "penumbra" or other dodge giving the federal government the right to regulate abortion in the states. Which is why Roe was wrongly decided.
A federal statute banning abortion would be unconstitutional for precisely the same reason. Which is why pro-lifers who understand the Constitution have proposed an amendment banning abortion.
well if we get rid of roe v wade, congress could still pass its own laws against abortion. You don’t have to wait for an amendment to restrict abortion nationwide.
Which other unalienable rights do you think "the states should decide?"
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No.
the 10th amendment doesn’t give states the right to allow people to murder babies or anyone.
ronpaul and algore were
If you have an issue with that, fine. But don't pretend to take the Constitution any more seriously than the Left does then.
Or is it ok to exceed the Constitutional mandate on things YOU agree with? How well does that work over the long run?
Yes you do. Or can you point out specifically where Congress was given the right to decide murder cases, the right to life or death, or any other such power? I'm not finding it in the short list of stuff in Art 1 Sect 8.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be there. But there is a process. Respect the process or we are no better than the Dems.
Enyart is a wingnut.
We don’t even need to get rid of Roe v. Wade. We simply pass Congressman Paul’s bill which establishes that life begins at conception, and Roe v. Wade is no longer an issue.
The states have always decided about the right to life: except for laws against murdering Federal officials or a few which stretch the commerce clause to justify Federal involvement, laws defining murder, manslaughter, justifiable homocide, negligent homocide, and the like are state laws.
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