Posted on 03/04/2008 2:32:23 PM PST by tcrlaf
Didn't see one poted yet, and Early exit polling is already out.
Let's all watch and enjoy as the Democrats continue to rip each others throats out!
I don’t think McCain will lose. I think he takes the middle and hopefully the Republicans come out in force.
Will it transcend into house and senate victories is the question.
We got our work cut out for us though, keeping him from being a bonehead like he has been.
Your theory and Rush’s is dead wrong. If Obama could have won Texas then I would agree, but first you make sure she is dead and rely on her vanity to stay in, which she would have.
Rush, Hannity, Ingraham all jumped the gun...which is why they do radio and don’t run campaigns. All we need was this last round and she was dead, now with the Hispanics and crossover GOP votes, Hillary will win Texas. Game over for Obama...no brokered convention.
OBama moved +2 and sHillary moved +.5 wonder why?
Here are more exit polls for your entertainment:
http://thepage.time.com/first-wave-of-fox-democratic-exit-polls-for-ohio-texas/
Best to beat the GOP:
Ohio — Obama 52, Clinton 44
Texas — Obama 52, Clinton 41
Offers clear and detailed plans:
Ohio — Clinton 67, Obama 57
Texas — Clinton 66, Obama 52
Inspires you about the future?
Ohio — Obama 67, Clinton 57
Texas — Obama 64, Clinton 57
More than half say they would be dissatisfied if their candidate does not win the nomination.
Second wave of exits:
Texas:
Hispanics: Clinton 64, Obama 35.
Late-deciders: Clinton 66, Obama 34.
Women: Clinton 54, Obama 46.
Ohio:
Top issue: economy — Clinton 52, Obama 46
US trade — 81% say NAFTA takes jobs away, 10% says it creates jobs, 6% says it has no effect.
Of those who think NAFTA takes jobs away, they are choosing Clinton 51, Obama 48.
Union households: Clinton 56, Obama 43
“The script has 5 pct Clinton beating 1 pct McCain”
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=script++%225+pct+Clinton%22+%221+pct+McCain%22
This is a point I have made too and if I may say it is phenomenonaly important. Those that say Obama is a sure winner over McCain (so vote for Hillary) ignore the Clinton's hunger for one more chance in four years if Obama lost. They would be doing some dirty work that would help McCain to defeat Obama. This cannot not be part of the consideration when choosing who to cross over to vote for.
Beating Hillary today probably elects McCain, because she will be able to make a case in 2012 that they should have nominated her and look at the horrible USSC nominations from McCain — so she can win.
It would seem likely she’ll be the VP on the ticket for Obama.
I think McCain beats Obama because Obama is an extremist and there are plenty of newsclips to show it. I think McCain beats Hillary because the black vote will abandon her (unless Obama is the VP nominee).
An Obama/Hillary ticket is likely weaker than a Hillary/Obama ticket.
ahhh... wouldn’t that be a dream come true. Do you think the koskids would settle? I think not. The only way she fixes it is to have Obama as the running mate. One would hope that relationship will get destroyed in the coming weeks.
I think you're wrong. If Hillary wins the nomination, Obama fans will stay home in droves. Besides, she has VERY high negatives and I think a lot of people don't want her in the white house...A LOT! Obama, on the other hand, will bring people out like we've not seen before. McCain would be toast.
Guess we'll just have to wait an see which one of us is right.
Those numbers mean that Hillary Clinton is going to win both Texas and Ohio.
“...even if she wins Ohio and Texas (I doubt it) she would have a minimal delegate gain due to the Dems proportional distribution.”
Delegate count after Ohio and Tx doesn’t matter. It will prove he cannot win the big states and the Clinton’s will have leverage to runoff in Mich/Florida, that will give her the lead. Game over. It gives the SuperDelegates cover to abandon the great black hope.
Well, do I drink my Old Overholt or the Makers Mark. I am not going to have a good night. No I am not stress out that McCain will get the GOP nomination and no I am not stress by Clinton or Obama winning the dems in OH, TX, RI and VT.
But I just KNOW I’m going to blow a fuse over the coverage. You got CNN which is so in the tank it is a mental disorder, or you’ve got Faux News and that ultimate whiner Bill-John-Boy-Walton-Hemmer and the foxes that cannot read nor do they have any sense of geography or math.
Long night.
Drink.
Texas:
Hispanics: Clinton 64, Obama 35
Be sure to remind EVERYONE that Hispanic Voters are valued at FAR LESS than Black Voters the way the Democrats have set Texas up!
Second Class Citizens who the Democrats don’t value nearly as much!
like I said relax.
The delegate math works in his favor any which way you turn it. He would never choose her as a running mate, and the reverse would be disaster for us. I am not worried about a Hillary comeback in delegate math. Can’t happen, no way, no how. She would have to steal it and there is no way the Michigan and Florida delegates (not that it would make a whole lot of difference) will come as they stand now.
She has to win Ohio and Texas by 20 pts to have a chance. It ain’t gonna happen. BUT, it will keep her in the race.
Don’t Rush to a wrong judgement.
Follow the money.
What’s the knife for? What’s those fingers mean? Aieeeee! Nasty old skank.
I agree with you folks - the best possible scenario is for Baraq Husayn ibm Mahomet to win, and force She Who Must Not Be Named to reveal the power She wields behind the party apparatus. A bloodletting on the convention floor is our last best hope.
I agree that it is a stupid proposition to prop up Hillary - let nature take it's course is my motto. That being said the math is simply not there for Hillary to pass Obama in delegates short of a major, major gaffe or scandal.
But again I agree that the push should not have been for this Super Tuesday II but the day after after the chips fall where they may.
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