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Chavez orders troops to Colombian border (10 battalions, WAR?)
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Posted on 03/02/2008 10:35:00 AM PST by MeanGreen2008

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To: MeanGreen2008
Little Adolph Hitler Chavez. He is going to invade all of these smaller South American countries and attempt to make himself leader of the entire South American Continent.
181 posted on 03/02/2008 2:59:03 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Obama: NOT the next JFK. He is the NEXT STALIN!!!! Wake up America!!!)
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To: JoeDetweiler
The longer the engagement were to last, the bigger the disadvantage

The Venezulians would desert or run away after one good pasteing.

182 posted on 03/02/2008 2:59:26 PM PST by woofer (Earth First! We'll mine the other eight later.)
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To: Popman

about 1.5 million barrels a day are imported from Venezuela. A top 5 supplier looking to sabre rattle past its economic cold war into something potentially quite a bit warmer.

Should be good for about a .25 cent boost on diesel and gasoline Monday morning.

I’m beginning to wonder if these tin pot dictators are in cahoots with the hedgers, like say George Soros, who has extensive experience in manipulating currencies and commodity markets. Seems like our communist revolution is getting daily pushes in favor of the Obama politicos.

Our economy and markets are be manipulated, as is our electoral process.


183 posted on 03/02/2008 3:02:25 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: nicmarlo
I’m gunna need a bigger score-card...;0)
184 posted on 03/02/2008 3:26:00 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: MeanGreen2008
Nuts.

I have friends in South America. Mainly in Brazil, but a few in Columbia. This could spark a regional war.

185 posted on 03/02/2008 3:27:19 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Republic of Texas

I’d be suprised if Venezuela supplies more than 6 or 7% of US imported oil; It’s certainly not anywhere near 40%, not has it ever been.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html


186 posted on 03/02/2008 3:30:53 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: P.O.E.

small, too.

When was the last time the US directly intervened militarily against a south american government? (we are involved militarily in Colombia/N. Peru afaik, but that is by invitation). Serious question, I cannot remember the last time. The removal of panama from colombia might be the last time.


187 posted on 03/02/2008 3:31:49 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

Also, Noriega could have been ‘taken out’ without firing more than maybe a few shots....
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You missed/ignored the point, entirely.


188 posted on 03/02/2008 3:39:11 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: MeanGreen2008

I wonder if BHO still wants to have unconditional talks with Chavez.


189 posted on 03/02/2008 3:46:25 PM PST by Redcloak ("A plague o' both your houses!")
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To: Carling

Good point
check gopachy.com


190 posted on 03/02/2008 3:49:11 PM PST by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
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To: SoldierDad
You may be able to make this statement regarding most other consumables, but not with oil and gasoline. It is not a matter of whether the product is "valuable" to the consumer. It is a matter of the product is vital to the consumer.

"Vital" is just another way of saying "really valuable."

You go ahead and try and make it through a day, week, month, or year without purchasing that which is required to either move people, goods, or services and see what happens. Everything would come to a standstill without petroleum, and the oil companies know this.

Yeah, that's what makes it so valuable.

They know that despite whatever artificially inflated price they come up with consumers will HAVE TO BUY fuel.

So why don't they charge 10 billion dollars a barrel? Why only $100?

The oil companies also are pretty savy in the artificial price hikes. They raise them to a point just shy of where consumers will begin to revolt, and then drop them a bit for a while.

How exactly would consumers "revolt" if they "HAVE TO BUY" fuel?

The oil companies also are pretty savy in the artificial price hikes. They raise them to a point just shy of where consumers will begin to revolt, and then drop them a bit for a while. Then, start the process all over again. They've been doing this since the late 1990's as they've factored into their profit margins that consumers will cry, but not do anything different as long as they engage in this practice at a slow pace. It's like placing a frog into a boiling pot of water versus putting a frog into a pot of cold water and slowly raising the temperature. The frog dropped into the boiling water will attempt to get out. The frog in the water that is slowly raised to a boil will do nothing and eventually be boiled to death.

Sorry, but that's a load of crap. We buy gasoline for $3 per gallon because the gallon of gasoline is worth more to us than the $3 in our pocket. As the price of oil rises, people gradually reduce their usage, through buying more fuel-efficient cars, using less electricity, traveling less, carpooling, etc. Also, as the price rises, oil companies start to have enough incentive to go get oil that's more expensive to extract.

It still amazes me how people who supposedly believe in freedom just go nuts when it comes to oil, as if oil is some kind of singularity. It's not.

191 posted on 03/02/2008 3:50:50 PM PST by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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To: neutronsgalore
So...how much they are willing to pay.

Yes. If that were not true, the gas station would just jack the price up to 10 billion dollars per gallon. Why doesn't that work? Because consumers won't pay it. And why *do* you pay the $3 per gallon? Because that gallon of gas is worth more to you than $3.

192 posted on 03/02/2008 3:54:10 PM PST by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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To: tajgirvan
I will pray. They are in the Palm Of His Hand and the Apple of His Eye! God’s Grace and Peace to you.

Thank you so much.

193 posted on 03/02/2008 3:56:09 PM PST by HokieMom
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To: MeanGreen2008

Bring back the Munroe doctrine, no enemies in the hemisphere.


194 posted on 03/02/2008 4:01:14 PM PST by omega4179 (B.HUSSEIN.Obama)
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To: MeanGreen2008

It’ll be interesting to see if they’ll die for Cocaboy.


195 posted on 03/02/2008 4:04:26 PM PST by kinghorse (John "Yippie Kiy Yay Mu Mu..My Friend" McCain in 08)
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To: Soliton

Bingo. He’s just playing speculative excess. If they can keep things on a slow boil for another 10 years they might have enough of our money to buy us straight up.


196 posted on 03/02/2008 4:09:34 PM PST by kinghorse (John "Yippie Kiy Yay Mu Mu..My Friend" McCain in 08)
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To: kempo

Who are these people claiming to be conservatives and bashing the Oil industry. They need to sign up for DU.


197 posted on 03/02/2008 4:14:34 PM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar & we can join OPEC!!! || Write in Thomas Sowell for President.)
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To: kempo

Who are these people claiming to be conservatives and bashing the Oil industry. They need to sign up for DU.


198 posted on 03/02/2008 4:14:56 PM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar & we can join OPEC!!! || Write in Thomas Sowell for President.)
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To: SoldierDad

It gets better. Hydrocarbons in cars is wasting it because we’ll need those to produce the plastics that make our lives literally possible. Without oil, science guys are guessing we would see our entire population recalibrated downward to a max of about 2 billion. Byproducts go into ferts and pesticides without which the farming miracle would not be possible. So access to oil is in fact do or die.


199 posted on 03/02/2008 4:16:30 PM PST by kinghorse (John "Yippie Kiy Yay Mu Mu..My Friend" McCain in 08)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

hehehe


200 posted on 03/02/2008 4:19:39 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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