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Why are People Having Fewer Kids? Perhaps it's because they don't like them very much
Reason ^ | February 26, 2008 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 02/27/2008 7:06:01 AM PST by Uncledave

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To: Politicalmom

“If I saved my Mom instead of my children, she’d KILL me. :p”

lol! I was thinking the same thing!


101 posted on 02/27/2008 9:00:34 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: xsmommy

I have forbidden all of them to leave the state. I am QUITE sure they will comply with my dictates......BWAHAHAHA!!


102 posted on 02/27/2008 9:01:27 AM PST by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: Politicalmom

i have a pile of fur in my lap everynight, her name is chanel and she is an 11 lb cavalier king charles spaniel. i can do without purring : ) if i am on the couch instead of the recliner, her 20 lb brother, Lucius, will have his butt pressed up against me on one side too.


103 posted on 02/27/2008 9:02:07 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Uncledave

Because it costs a lot of money to have kids. Two incomes are often not enough. Tax laws are slanted to favor the rich and the poor, and to penalize normal people who decide to become parents.
There should be a tax exemption of at least $12,000 per year per child (born to or adopted by male+female married parents).
Current tax and immigration laws penalize the normal family.


104 posted on 02/27/2008 9:02:14 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Digital Sniper

And even on a broader scale -

there isn’t a problem in our society that can’t be traced to some shortsighted liberal idea.

Can anyone offer a counter example?


105 posted on 02/27/2008 9:04:11 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Yaelle

Very well said.

I’m tryiny to talk my wife into another child, but the potential of another Iraq deployment is giving us pause. She doesn’t want to be alone with three children under 5 for another year+ It’s a tough situation.

In the meantime, I spend every waking moment when I’m not at work with my children. Yes, my hobbies like golf and SCUBA diving and long sessions at the gym have gone by the wayside. That’s the price you pay. My wife and I compromise as much as possible so she can attend Yoga classes a few hours a week and I can hit the gym for quick workouts. The problem is too many people can’t or won’t make these sacrifices. They just don’t get it. Your childhood is over, step up and be an adult and join the Human Race.

30% of your time with your toddlers is miserable. That’s life, but that’s how you “break your teeth” as a parent and turn your children into solid citizens. People that can’t, won’t or don’t want to do this baffle me. What if their parents had felt the same way?

Sometimes I weep for the future of this country.


106 posted on 02/27/2008 9:05:17 AM PST by strider44
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To: Uncledave
But children are our future, doesn't anybody care about the future of the Human Race?

It dependes on reproductionand the care and nourishing of the future generation (future leaders and such)

107 posted on 02/27/2008 9:05:34 AM PST by Pippin ( ? '08)
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To: Politicalmom

It is so difficult for me seeing my kids grow up (too fast!). There seems to be an inate unfairness that our job is to raise them so that they can leave us and live on their own. My kids (teens now) are very loving and kind, but they are also fiercely independent since they were very young. It about killed me when they started school for the first time with nothing more than a “bye mom!”

I of course want them to be as independent as they are (I raised them that way), but as a mom sometimes it hurts my heart knowing that in only a few short years they won’t be here in the house all the time.

I adore having teenagers... We have the best conversations and my son is so tall now he can reach the top of the shelves for me. He jokes that I only had him so he could reach stuff for his short mother. Lol


108 posted on 02/27/2008 9:08:07 AM PST by dha (The safest place to be is within the will of God.)
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To: Hoodlum91

Ain’t it the truth? It is so funny when someone has a child who they think is God’s gift to the earth and the kid is annoying as hell. I knew the limitations of my children - knew when naptime was overdue, or when we were somewhere kids shouldn’t be. Conversely, when adults are in an area more conducive to children, they should be the ones to show some good sense and let the kids have some freedom.


109 posted on 02/27/2008 9:08:09 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Even my tagline is sad....I can't stand ANY of the candidates!)
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To: xsmommy
i think the freeriders need to take a chillpill and not feel so singled out for ridicule

There are so many other ways I can be ridiculed.

110 posted on 02/27/2008 9:08:27 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ffusco

I didn’t say they were shallow—someone else did (note: I had responded to someone else’s post). But I said IF it’s true, that they’d make terrible parents anyway. And there’s nothing at all wrong with that—better not to have kids than to have them and neglect them or worse, abuse them because they’re frankly not suited for the job.


111 posted on 02/27/2008 9:09:04 AM PST by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

and you are! don’t allow yourself to be defined merely by your childlessness, when there is so much more that we can rag on you for.


112 posted on 02/27/2008 9:09:56 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Politicalmom; xsmommy
Forbidden them to leave the State? Honey, my daughter attending a college within the State of Texas and is STILL 9 1/2 hour drive away from me. ;^)

Thank goodness you live in a smaller State!

113 posted on 02/27/2008 9:12:03 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Even my tagline is sad....I can't stand ANY of the candidates!)
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To: MrB
there isn’t a problem in our society that can’t be traced to some shortsighted liberal idea. Can anyone offer a counter example?

I am hard-pressed to find so much as one liberal idea that's helped our nation in particular or society overall. If anything, they've done nothing but erode the fabric of everything that has historically made our nation great.

114 posted on 02/27/2008 9:12:13 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: xsmommy

I think the difference with the clown car is that it’s a teasing jab whereas the attacks on the childless are very pointed, mean and insulting. just in this thread they are called selfish, deformed and horrible people. Regardless of the jokes thrown at those with too many children, I’ve never seen anyone call them deranged or accuse them of being the downfall of society. Frankly, many of those I know who choose to remain childless do so for very unselfish reasons. And many of those I know who have chosen to have children have done so for very selfish reasons. To try to lump all into one category or another is rather shallow.

FReepers are a very judgemental lot, that’s for sure.


115 posted on 02/27/2008 9:12:13 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

You sound like a great mom!

I’m sure I’d like your kids.


116 posted on 02/27/2008 9:14:33 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: Hoodlum91

Agree totally!


117 posted on 02/27/2008 9:14:43 AM PST by Pippin ( ? '08)
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To: xsmommy
"i think people who don’t have dogs as pets are shallow and self centered : )"

LOL! I agree - as long as they can give them a good home!

Carolyn

118 posted on 02/27/2008 9:14:46 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Hoodlum91

i don’t know, i just have three kids, i can’t speak for how those who have very large families are made to feel by posters here. knowing how judgmental and insulting freepers can be, i would not just assume that they are laughing the jibes off. my philosophy is to just respect other people’s decisions about their own lives. Defining oneself based on childlessness makes as much sense as defining oneself by the computer operating system they use. and God knows we have seen threads on that subject as well, LOL!!!


119 posted on 02/27/2008 9:15:38 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

“There should be a tax exemption of at least $12,000 per year per child (born to or adopted by male+female married parents).”

there are freepers here who already think the present child tax credit is too much, and that the childless are “subsidizing” those who have children because they send more money to D.C.


120 posted on 02/27/2008 9:17:00 AM PST by Scotswife
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