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To: AndyTheBear

Faith is not based on facts - that is why it is called “faith”.

Personally, there are far too many things about this relic which imply it is genuine than any explanations that it is a forgery.

Remember Occam’s razor.


24 posted on 02/25/2008 1:13:48 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
Faith is not based on facts - that is why it is called “faith”.

Most drivers have faith that oncoming traffic is inclined to stay on their side of the yellow line unless passing or avoiding a hazard etc.

If faith were really orthogonal to facts, this would be rather dangerous, no?

41 posted on 02/25/2008 1:44:30 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: ZULU
Remember Occam’s razor.

Depends which facts you factor, doesn't it? I'm willing to keep an open mind on this. There was a Shroud, but is this the one? We know that there was a thriving market for forgeries in the Middle Ages. Practically every prince had several. Using Occam's Razor, I get a different answer...

51 posted on 02/25/2008 2:10:24 PM PST by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: ZULU
Faith is not based on facts - that is why it is called “faith”.

I disagree. Faith doesn't mean no evidence. (I'm saying this as a general statement - I don't believe the shroud is real either.)

236 posted on 02/26/2008 9:58:22 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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