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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein; DoughtyOne

Well, then, I want my F-22. I want to be able to own an Abrams tank. I want to have a battleship or an Aircraft Carrier. Because, according to the logic being applied here, the only way I, or anyone else, can legitimately claim my 2nd amendment right is to have weapons which can be used to defend myself (and others) from our Government, and the only way in which to be able to defend ourselves from that Government is to have the same weapons they have as a civilian. I have a hard time with that logic.


48 posted on 02/25/2008 9:07:48 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: SoldierDad; FroedrickVonFreepenstein; DoughtyOne

“Well, then, I want my F-22. “

If you got the change, I see no problem with it. How about you FVF? DO?


54 posted on 02/25/2008 9:13:44 AM PST by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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To: SoldierDad
Well, then, I want my F-22. I want to be able to own an Abrams tank. I want to have a battleship or an Aircraft Carrier. Because, according to the logic being applied here, the only way I, or anyone else, can legitimately claim my 2nd amendment right is to have weapons which can be used to defend myself (and others) from our Government, and the only way in which to be able to defend ourselves from that Government is to have the same weapons they have as a civilian. I have a hard time with that logic.

Well you might have a hard time with that logic, but if you knew your history you would not have made this post.

When the second amendment was ratified, civilians owned cannon, mortars and warships - in short, if you could afford it, you could own it.

Such was the scope of the right protected by the second amendment.

56 posted on 02/25/2008 9:14:51 AM PST by Abundy
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To: SoldierDad
Well, then, I want my F-22. I want to be able to own an Abrams tank. I want to have a battleship or an Aircraft Carrier. Because, according to the logic being applied here, the only way I, or anyone else, can legitimately claim my 2nd amendment right is to have weapons which can be used to defend myself (and others) from our Government, and the only way in which to be able to defend ourselves from that Government is to have the same weapons they have as a civilian. I have a hard time with that logic.

You have a hard time with that logic because you are ignorant of history.You CAN own an Abrams tank, if you can afford one. And as far as a battleship or aircract carrier? Maybe you should spend a little more time reading US History, and less time spouting ignorance on the internet. During the early years of our Republic private ships were indeed armed with "guns" better known as cannon. Ever hear the term "privateer"? Completely legal privately owned warships. It wasn't until blssninnies like you started to wet your pants over law abiding citizens arms ownership that it became a popular belief that the only reason to own weapons was for "sporting purposes".

Sorry if this sounds unkind. But I and many others are about fed up with your kind. You have NO right to champion the depravation of our God given rights. Read the founding fathers, then come back here and tell us if you still feel this way.
74 posted on 02/25/2008 9:33:10 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: SoldierDad
Well, if you have a back yard big enough I sure support your right to park an aircraft carrier in it - as long as it’s OK with the homeowner’s association.

One of them .50s is a little hard to whip out from under the seat and take a shot as you drive down the street.

I get an extra $8,000 and I’d like one. But then I’d have to get a bigger gun safe.

78 posted on 02/25/2008 9:37:30 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: SoldierDad
I have a hard time with that logic.

Then you need a serious history lesson.

81 posted on 02/25/2008 9:39:53 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: SoldierDad
Well, then, I want my F-22. I want to be able to own an Abrams tank. I want to have a battleship or an Aircraft Carrier.

If you can afford to own and operate any or all of them, be my guest.

But we both know you can't. But maybe a .50 BMG is in your budget range and if so, get one

But in the mean time, you need to keep your hands off of other people's weaponry.

108 posted on 02/25/2008 10:11:02 AM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican. McCain is the Conservatives true litmus test)
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To: SoldierDad
Well, then, I want my F-22.

Ha! Yeah sure, if you've got $130 million lying around the house, go for it. Not to mention the maintenance crew and ordinance that you've have to maintain to keep it.

If a civilian can afford all that and has tens of thousands of square miles of private land to fire the ord, why not?

122 posted on 02/25/2008 10:24:59 AM PST by GunRunner (Vote for Obama, because the past is history, the future is yet to come, and platitudes are forever.)
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To: SoldierDad

You want an F-22? Abrams? Aircraft carrier? Go right ahead! If you can afford it and find a willing seller, it’s yours with just an additional $200 tax and a couple sheets of easy paperwork.

I know someone selling a 90mm cannon. $125,000 and it’s yours.


127 posted on 02/25/2008 10:26:27 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: SoldierDad
Well, then, I want my F-22. I want to be able to own an Abrams tank. I want to have a battleship or an Aircraft Carrier.

Well at least you did not start ranting about flamethrowers and bazookas. The Brady group must have revamped their talking points booklet...............

130 posted on 02/25/2008 10:30:23 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: SoldierDad
Having a hard time with the logic? Then I suggest you read "The Federalist Papers", and also peruse some history.
289 posted on 02/25/2008 2:10:10 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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