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Honolulu PD, NRA Square Off On Rifle Debate
KITV-4 (Hawaii) ^ | 2/22/08 | n/a

Posted on 02/25/2008 8:38:35 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

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To: Mogollon
The .50 caliber rifle available to civilians are single-shot...hardly capable of firing 10 rounds in 10 seconds.

Some are semiautomatic, and have 10 round magazines. 10 rounds in 10 seconds is doable. Maybe not real accurately though. The recoil, even with muzzle brakes and such, is still significant, and getting back on target might take a bit longer than a second.

401 posted on 02/26/2008 8:06:15 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ctdonath2
"You sure you have that tagline interpreted right?"

Don't take my word for it... Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of Matthew 26:52 and Lexicon Results for lambano or to take
402 posted on 02/26/2008 8:54:17 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Tex Pete

Hey, when I’m wrong on an issue I admit it. Thanks for the post.


403 posted on 02/26/2008 9:15:19 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: smoketree
---you are apparently mathematically challenged.

--for another interesting figure, obtain the number of .30 caliber rounds shipped to the Pacific 1941-45, then divide it by the number of enemy casualties attributed to small arms fire in that period of time--

404 posted on 02/26/2008 9:54:12 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: from occupied ga
...While the supreme court gets ready to disarm us these racist neonazis are getting more heavily armed.

Point taken but with weapons safety procedures as practiced in the photo it will probably end in tears for them.
405 posted on 02/26/2008 4:36:34 PM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: rellimpank

Apparently you’re not following this thread.
I’m not the one that came up with that figure.
I just challenged it.


406 posted on 02/26/2008 4:56:17 PM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: SoldierDad
The inclusion of 2nd amendment was to codify the principle that free citizens should be able to bear arms. It had nothing to do with technology of the time. You don’t think that the writers were unaware of advances in technology, do you?

Moreover, you could apply your ideas to all of the amendments and to the constitution. You believe it is a “living document”. I have to admit I’m not sure why you are a FReeper.

407 posted on 02/26/2008 5:10:39 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: SoldierDad
Well, so much for the idiotic belief in Freedom of Speech. I'm being flamed for practicing mine. I guess it's only when you have the same point of view of others that that Freedom is allowed.

Your belief in Freedom of Speech is outdated and antiquated. This is 2008, not 1776.

Inalienable rights to own a weapon of that power? You truly belief that God would espouse the ownership of such a weapon in the hands of anyone and everyone? Wow. Such arrogance

You're the only ahole here who presumes to speak for God. We are discussing the Bill of Rights, not whether God wants us to have .50 cals.

408 posted on 02/26/2008 5:15:21 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

I guess you’ve come late to the party. You might want to read later on into the thread and then post some comments. Enjoy.


409 posted on 02/26/2008 7:09:20 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: monkeycard
The two simians in the picture were the main force responsible for the post Katrina gun confiscations in New Orleans.

Nothing bad has happened to them yet. Not a single jack booted thug who participated in the gross violations of the citizens' constitutional rights has been prosecuted. As far as I know few if any of the firearms stolen by the police in their role as home invasion robbers have been returned.

Tell me how it's going to end badly for them unless some NO citizen, tired of arrogant ignorant tyranny posing as representative government, takes condign second amendment action ala Reinhardt Heidrich?

410 posted on 02/27/2008 3:34:02 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga
The two simians in the picture were the main force responsible for the post Katrina gun confiscations in New Orleans.

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I guess it will take action by a citizen or group of citizens to curb their actions, quite frankly I am not sure what that action would be however. Any suggestions?
411 posted on 02/27/2008 4:36:19 PM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: SoldierDad

Sorry that I don’t read all 400 posts before replying and before I read that you realized that you sounded like a fool. Congrats for figuring it out. Some people never do.


412 posted on 02/27/2008 6:36:27 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Really, it’s not a problem. I knew from your post that you hadn’t had time yet to catch up, and that’s to be expected. That’s why I didn’t bite back. Yes, I did sound like a fool initially. Then stopped and realized what side I didn’t want to be one. I may one day need to be armed to defend my family and friends and neighbors.


413 posted on 02/27/2008 7:08:51 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: monkeycard
Any suggestions?

None that I care to make public. I think that they do have lawsuits pending against them for the return of the firearms, but Hmmm The abused citizens seek relief from tyrannical government from the selfsame tyrannical government. Don't think that's going to go very far.

There isn't any symmetry in the abuse and relief. take for example the egregious Duke lacross case. The railroaded Lacross players could have gotten 20 years in prison for a wholly fictional crime. The ho who made the whole thing up faced NO consequences. Nifong spent ONE NIGHT in jail and has a flock of judgements against him, but he is essentially judgement proof. The police who conspired with Nifong in the frame up have faced NO consequences. Likewise I would be astonished if any of the government malefactors from New Orleans faced any consequences for their actions and I would be almost as surprised if the the home invasion robbery victims got their property back.

I personally think that government officials who abuse the rights of citizens should get a far WORSE punishment for their actions than an ordinary citizen would for similar actions because of the disproportionate threat represented by the government.

414 posted on 02/28/2008 3:28:38 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga
I personally think that government officials who abuse the rights of citizens should get a far WORSE punishment for their actions than an ordinary citizen would for similar actions because of the disproportionate threat represented by the government.

I agree wholeheartedly with you about corrupt government officials. I can think of some suitable ways they could be punished but those thoughts are best left off this board ;)
415 posted on 02/28/2008 7:23:20 PM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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