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To: Matchett-PI

Does that make what he’s said here untrue?

We do all have the same evidence; it is interpreted based on our presumptions.


26 posted on 02/24/2008 4:51:51 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

“Does that make what he’s said here untrue?” ~ metmom

This is what is true:

Those who have a _need_ to believe something will believe it no matter what - and they can’t be reasoned with.

You may, or may not find this of interest:

7/3/2003
http://www.christianforums.com/t43741&page=12

Poster: Ok, I just got a email from Dr. Wise. This is what he said:

Dr. Kurt Wise: “..Given what we currently think we understand about the world, the majority of the scientific evidence favors an old earth and universe, not a young one. I would therefore say that anyone who claims that the earth is young for scientific evidence alone is scientifically ignorant. “

Who is Kurt Wise? Read on:

Towers Online - The News Service of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary http://www.towersonline.net/story.php?grp=news&id=344
April 13, 2006 By Jeff Robinson

Excerpts:

“Trustees at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary on April 11 unanimously approved the creation of two new theological study centers­the Center for Theology and the Arts, and the Center for Theology and Law, during the board’s annual spring meeting.

Seminary President R. Albert Mohler Jr. said the new study centers aim at equipping pastors and church leaders to think biblically about pivotal issues which dominate contemporary culture.

“One of the ways we want to lead Southern Baptists is through helping evangelicals and Southern Baptists in particular to engage some of the most critical issues of our day,” Mohler said.

“This is not a time for Christians to be out-thought by the world, but in general that is what happens. We find the church behind the times in thinking about some of the most crucial issues of our day.”

...Mohler also named Kurt Wise as the new director for Southern’s Center for Theology and Science, and professor of theology and science. ..

Wise earned both a doctor of philosophy and master of arts in paleontology from Harvard University. He and his wife Marie have two daughters.

Wise replaces William Dembski, who is leaving Southern Seminary to join the faculty at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary so he can be closer to his family.

“With the addition of Kurt Wise, we are recognizing that creation is a ground zero theological crisis point right now in American culture and even in our churches,” Moore said. [snip] ..


48 posted on 02/24/2008 5:34:13 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("I drive a Hybrid. It burns both gas AND rubber." ~ FReeper knews_hound)
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To: metmom

Here’s something else you might find interesting:

The Trouble With Fred and Wilma:
Why the Creation Museum is Bad for Christians
by Michael Patrick Leahy
http://www.christianfaithandreason.com/june_fredandwilma.html


66 posted on 02/24/2008 5:52:40 PM PST by Matchett-PI (There's a big difference between the "ID Movement" and "intelligent design".)
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To: metmom

“We do all have the same evidence”

I would have to firmly disagree with that.


88 posted on 02/24/2008 6:22:01 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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