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To: metmom

“Does that make what he’s said here untrue?” ~ metmom

This is what is true:

Those who have a _need_ to believe something will believe it no matter what - and they can’t be reasoned with.

You may, or may not find this of interest:

7/3/2003
http://www.christianforums.com/t43741&page=12

Poster: Ok, I just got a email from Dr. Wise. This is what he said:

Dr. Kurt Wise: “..Given what we currently think we understand about the world, the majority of the scientific evidence favors an old earth and universe, not a young one. I would therefore say that anyone who claims that the earth is young for scientific evidence alone is scientifically ignorant. “

Who is Kurt Wise? Read on:

Towers Online - The News Service of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary http://www.towersonline.net/story.php?grp=news&id=344
April 13, 2006 By Jeff Robinson

Excerpts:

“Trustees at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary on April 11 unanimously approved the creation of two new theological study centers­the Center for Theology and the Arts, and the Center for Theology and Law, during the board’s annual spring meeting.

Seminary President R. Albert Mohler Jr. said the new study centers aim at equipping pastors and church leaders to think biblically about pivotal issues which dominate contemporary culture.

“One of the ways we want to lead Southern Baptists is through helping evangelicals and Southern Baptists in particular to engage some of the most critical issues of our day,” Mohler said.

“This is not a time for Christians to be out-thought by the world, but in general that is what happens. We find the church behind the times in thinking about some of the most crucial issues of our day.”

...Mohler also named Kurt Wise as the new director for Southern’s Center for Theology and Science, and professor of theology and science. ..

Wise earned both a doctor of philosophy and master of arts in paleontology from Harvard University. He and his wife Marie have two daughters.

Wise replaces William Dembski, who is leaving Southern Seminary to join the faculty at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary so he can be closer to his family.

“With the addition of Kurt Wise, we are recognizing that creation is a ground zero theological crisis point right now in American culture and even in our churches,” Moore said. [snip] ..


48 posted on 02/24/2008 5:34:13 PM PST by Matchett-PI ("I drive a Hybrid. It burns both gas AND rubber." ~ FReeper knews_hound)
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To: Matchett-PI

[[Dr. Kurt Wise: “..Given what we currently think we understand about the world, the majority of the scientific evidence favors an old earth and universe, not a young one. I would therefore say that anyone who claims that the earth is young for scientific evidence alone is scientifically ignorant. “]]

I just got an email from myself that said “Given that a majority of old earth ‘evidence’ relies HEAVILY on assumptions about UNKNOWNS, and relies on methods that aren’t accurate beyond 7000 or so years, those hwo suggest that young earth believers are ignorant are themselves guilty of a priori agendist propoganda and are guilty of self deluded opinion of htemselves.

Kurt can beleive whatever he likes- but his arrogance and pompous attitude show a VERY clear a priori snobbery that is rife within the scientific comunity and which gives TRUE science a VERY bad name!!! [snip]...


132 posted on 02/24/2008 6:58:47 PM PST by CottShop
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