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California exodus turns to stampede
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 20, 2008

Posted on 02/21/2008 4:07:43 AM PST by Man50D

WASHINGTON – California, which once lured Americans from near and far, is now driving out millions of the most productive residents – including high percentages of the most affluent.

"When California faced a Mount Everest-sized $14 billion deficit in 2003, one of the major causes for the red ink was the stampede of millionaire households from the state," says a report called "Rich States, Poor States" by economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore. "Out of the 25,000 or so seven-figure-income families, more than 5,000 left in the early 2000s, and the loss of their tax payments accounted for about half the budget hole."

And it's not just the rich leaving.

Based on data from moving companies, California had the second-highest domestic population out-flow of any state in 2005, according to the report, "despite the beautiful weather, beaches, and mountains."

The bad news for California is that it faces $14 billion deficit this year, despite boasting one of the highest tax burdens in the nation.

The report, published by the American Legislative Exchange Council shows jobs are not just leaving the country – they are moving from state to state, with the population following.

"States are in direct competition with each other for human capital and business investment. State governments that think they can attract jobs and people, and grow their economies, by taxing their citizens at a higher rate than their neighbors are sadly mistaken," said Democratic Arkansas state Sen. Steve Faris, ALEC's 2008 national chairman. "Legislators should take a close look at where their state ranks in this book and use it as a tool to help them improve."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arthurlaffer; bluestates; calbudgetcaexodus; california; californication; democratparty; exodus; immigration; liberals; publicpolicy; stephenmoore; taxes; taxtherich
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To: Retired COB

Lol....touche!


361 posted on 02/22/2008 12:28:27 PM PST by TightyRighty
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To: FormerACLUmember

I have never seen a situation where the Laffer curve was shown to be true. Largely because high taxes don’t make Americans stop working.


362 posted on 02/22/2008 12:31:11 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Man50D

Supporting illegals is expensive. Right Arnie???

I’m leaving as soon as I can.


363 posted on 02/22/2008 12:35:26 PM PST by rbosque ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: gondramB
Largely because high taxes don’t make Americans stop working.

In this situation, they didn't stop working - they moved and took their income to a lower-taxed state. The solution to that problem is to get rid of the differences in state taxes.

364 posted on 02/22/2008 12:53:15 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: ReagansShinyHair; P8riot
Thought you'd be interested in this one.

WOW.

St. Louis and Los Angeles Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

St. Louis, MO Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 37.2 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 97.15 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 907.2 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 1439.1 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 2453.3 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 6802.4 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 2492.2 654.4 501.5

365 posted on 02/22/2008 1:51:11 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ReagansShinyHair

>>Largely because high taxes don’t make Americans stop working.


In this situation, they didn’t stop working - they moved and took their income to a lower-taxed state. The solution to that problem is to get rid of the differences in state taxes.<<

Please don’t say that out loud in the wrong company or the Blue states will try to force all the Red states to match California’s taxes...


366 posted on 02/22/2008 2:05:26 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: P8riot
I am freer and safer living in Virginia

Actually, your not...The numbers don't lie. Clearly the caliber of people there are much more prone to crime. Check out the large city of Richmond Virginia for example. Crime is through the roof.

Oh, and I've been in nearly every state in this country, and there is no place like Cal, or can match it's world class weather.

I spent time in Virginia, and all over the east coast, and almost froze to death...Not for me. As I get older, I really detest the cold. Makes me mean. lol

Oh, and Orange is still a very nice town, with some very high end areas.

367 posted on 02/22/2008 7:18:44 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
To a certain extent I hope you are right. As long as they assimilate into the Texas state of mind I have no problem with people who relocate to Texas (just like people who assimilate to the US culture). This is what happened with my parents, they moved from New York almost 40 years ago and now consider themselves Texans. I am fortunate enough to be able to call myself a first generation Texan.
368 posted on 02/26/2008 11:48:20 AM PST by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: dljordan
I live in a small Indiana town nestled in a beautifully wooded area along the Wabash River. All you from Kali keep right on moving past, for we all have aids, marry our sisters, have syphilis sores along our mouths, which are filled with rotted, black teeth. We use Kali license plates for target practice. We all own at least six rabid, mange-covered dogs that take special delight in chewing on folks from the outside. The way the dogs can tell outsiders is that they are clean; we bathe once a year, whether we need it or not. I could be more descriptive, but you get the point.
369 posted on 02/27/2008 8:57:13 PM PST by Wabashtadpole
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To: arthurus

the nation of mexico and the movement of what is called reconquista, is now under the belief that all gringos need to recess back to the original thirteen colonies.

Hence why they like the use of the Betsy Ross flag.

They believe your home is theirs. they believe you stole the land and the nation from them. They mean to take the entire U.S. back....


370 posted on 02/27/2008 9:01:12 PM PST by television is just wrong (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: television is just wrong

Like the Californians moving to Colorado. They run away from intolerable conditions at home and inexorably bring them to their new place. With the Californians it is mostly unconscious- they don’t have any idea that all the “nice” things they want have the oppressive conditions they hate on the flip side. The Mexicans want to recreate all of Mexico in a nicer landscape.


371 posted on 02/28/2008 2:44:25 AM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus

“Colorado is nice but it needs more land use ordinances.”

Yep. In the short time I lived in Colorado it got increasingly liberal. Montana is going quick.


372 posted on 03/01/2008 5:08:50 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: RSmithOpt

“Seems as though the liberal elite have nothing better to do than to focus on taking others peoples’ monies and then telling them what they can or cannot do.”

It’s amazing people flee California for that reason and then seek to create the same mess in their new state.


373 posted on 03/01/2008 5:11:45 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: Man50D

Don’t blame me. I voted for McClintock.


374 posted on 03/01/2008 6:02:16 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: arthurus

“The flight from California is not good news for the rest of the nation. The refugees bring California with them wherever they go.”

We had the same problem here in Alabama a few years ago. We had just had a big influx of jobs from a base closing in St. Louis. The new comers were thrilled to learn they could purchase a much large house and with property tax bills that were thousands lower than where they came from.

Of course, when the new Govenor wanted to raise property taxes, these new comers were some of his biggest supporters. ‘Why, in St. Louis I paid $6000 in property taxes. Here, I’m only paying $900. Why of course we can raise taxes.”


375 posted on 03/01/2008 6:07:58 AM PST by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to keep a Democrat out of the White House.)
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To: jeddavis
California schools were the pride of the nation 50 years ago.

This was especially true during the years 1963-1971, when Max Rafferty, a solid conservative and an activist education reformer, served as Superintendent of Public Instruction.

376 posted on 03/01/2008 6:12:33 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: norton

“I’ve never heard anyone say that it is too expensive to do business in Texas, Florida, Arizona, Missouri, and a long list of other places.”

Listen please...

I am in the wedding business. Been so for 25 years. The high cost of the property taxes on a new home for newlyweds in Florida is cutting wedding budgets like no other industry. A couple can be Florida born natives. Their parents have lived in one place for the 20 years. The kids property taxes will be four times that of the parents.

It’s a lose lose situation. The newlyweds have it just as bad as the new residents coming from out of state. Oh - I forgot nobody is moving into Florida anymore.


377 posted on 03/01/2008 6:52:22 AM PST by George from New England
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To: manc

“people from massachusetts, new york and new jersey moving here and thinking they are better than everyone else”

They bring their pension check down here because they know it will go further and buy more.

Their retirement is based on a liberal life and their revenue source is never impacted by the damage they do down here.

None of us down here will have the excessive pension amounts they come in with.

The outcome is we struggle more to maintain our smaller paychecks and their money flows without interruption from up north.


378 posted on 03/01/2008 6:58:08 AM PST by George from New England
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To: television is just wrong

And the feds will allow it to happen untill whitey gets off his butt and waters the liberty tree.


379 posted on 03/01/2008 7:03:48 AM PST by winodog (We have been set up for Hillary)
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To: Man50D

Why would any productive member of society stay in a state that has as its motto the transfer of wealth from the productive to the non-productive?


380 posted on 03/01/2008 7:17:11 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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