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"Fewer guns, less violence" [Barf Alert]
The Minnesota Daily ^ | 2/18/08 | n/a

Posted on 02/19/2008 8:48:23 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

The front page news of young college students being shot and murdered on campuses across the nation has become sickeningly familiar. The latest mass murder at Northern Illinois University took five students, plus the shooter, most of whom were under the age of 21. We all agree that the senseless slaughter of young people at school needs to stop. On the other hand, the question of how to stop it and why it happens in the first place has seen less collectivity. Nevertheless, it's clear this nation needs to make changes in firearm regulation to try and curb these events that, for the most part, are particular to the United States.

California recently passed legislation that requires all guns manufactured after 2010 to contain a code or imprint that would trace bullets fired back to the gun, the owner and the dealer. This smart gun legislation could gain bipartisan support if taken to the federal level. Although this sort of legislation is what we need in order to hold gun owners and dealers accountable, states and the federal government need to continue critically examining American's right to carry concealed weapons.

Gun lobbyists have used these sorts of tragedies before to push for a loosening of concealed weapons regulation. They assert that an armed citizen is a protected citizen. These events take place in a matter of seconds, and it would be extremely unlikely that an ordinary citizen not sufficiently trained to handle these situations would be able to effectively take down an enraged attacker.

The prevalence of guns in our society has generated a "fight fire with fire" mentality. The need to carry a concealed weapon is because others too can carry a weapon, if another person might have a gun, you'd better be prepared to protect yourself with yours.

In order to reduce firearm circulation, our country needs to reexamine the protection of concealed weapons, like D.C has done, and hopefully find that personal handguns only exacerbate the problem of gun violence.

Tragedies like the one at Northern Illinois University can serve to shake up and put pressure on lawmakers to make changes in the system. Smart firearm legislation, founded in fact not on old traditions, is needed to curb gun violence and death that is all too common.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; crimerate; guncontrol; niu
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To: kiriath_jearim
California recently passed legislation that requires all guns manufactured after 2010 to contain a code or imprint that would trace bullets fired back to the gun, the owner and the dealer.

Yeah, that's gonna put the kibosh on all those school shootings, I'm sure....IDIOTS!!! In this recent shooting, they have the bullets, the weapons and the body of the murderer, and they STILL have dead students!

21 posted on 02/19/2008 8:54:04 AM PST by NRA1995 (Bill Clinton: HILLARY!'s other big ass)
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To: kiriath_jearim
hopefully find that personal handguns only exacerbate the problem

Author is wishing to direct the outcome of research. As a guess he probably finds that Global Warming is scientific.

22 posted on 02/19/2008 8:55:06 AM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: kiriath_jearim

“In order to reduce firearm circulation, our country needs to reexamine the protection of concealed weapons, like D.C has done, and hopefully find that personal handguns only exacerbate the problem of gun violence.”

Please, can someone, somewhere, tell me (using logic and reason) how the city of Washington DC can be held as a good example of what the rest of the country should do regarding concealed weapons? They have a ridiculously high rate of violence and murder by those using guns and yet “personal handguns” are BANNED! As in “Ban (verb): To prohibit, forbid or bar”.

It’s like we’re living in Bizarro world or something...


23 posted on 02/19/2008 8:56:13 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Resolute Conservative

you beat me by 46 seconds. We better be careful what we wish for though. If liberals have their way we may end up with no guns no alcohol and no automobiles. Liberal utopia!


24 posted on 02/19/2008 8:56:52 AM PST by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
it would be extremely unlikely that an ordinary citizen not sufficiently trained to handle these situations would be able to effectively take down an enraged attacker.”

What was it they used to say...."but even if it saves one life it's worth it, isn't it?" I think the same mindset should be applied to concealed carry.

25 posted on 02/19/2008 8:57:26 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

But, maybe we just need more laws!

If they can’t be stopped by twenty thousand Un-Constitutional laws, maybe twenty thousand and one will do it.

It’s for the children!


26 posted on 02/19/2008 8:58:00 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

In almost every school shooting the killer dies at the scene.
Why would we need to trace the bullets back to the gun and how is that going to prevent crime?


27 posted on 02/19/2008 8:58:32 AM PST by CrappieLuck
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To: kiriath_jearim

In almost every school shooting the killer dies at the scene.
Why would we need to trace the bullets back to the gun and how is that going to prevent crime?


28 posted on 02/19/2008 8:59:10 AM PST by CrappieLuck
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To: robomatik

It’s pictures just like that, that cause all the crime.


29 posted on 02/19/2008 8:59:45 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

“our country needs to reexamine the protection of concealed weapons, like D.C has done, and hopefully find that personal handguns only exacerbate the problem of gun violence.

—Gee, what if we find otherwise? Will this guy change his tune?


30 posted on 02/19/2008 9:01:03 AM PST by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Fewer liberals, less idiots.

Wonderful line. LOL

31 posted on 02/19/2008 9:01:33 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Tragedies like the one at Northern Illinois University can serve to shake up and put pressure on lawmakers to make changes in the system. Smart firearm legislation, founded in fact not on old traditions, is needed to curb gun violence and death that is all too common.

A peculiar statement from someone that doesn't offer up one fact to support their opinion.

32 posted on 02/19/2008 9:04:51 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: kiriath_jearim

While we’re at it, let’s call for legislation that places better control on editorials. These idiots always forget that no right exists if the 2nd is removed.


33 posted on 02/19/2008 9:11:43 AM PST by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Victim disarmament zones are not the answer.


34 posted on 02/19/2008 9:12:41 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: kiriath_jearim

“California recently passed legislation that requires all guns manufactured after 2010 to contain a code or imprint that would trace bullets fired back to the gun, the owner and the dealer.”
How the he-l is that going to protect these kids? We know who owned the gun; the kid that shot his professor, classmates and himself.


35 posted on 02/19/2008 9:12:54 AM PST by Billg64
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To: kiriath_jearim
On the other hand, the question of how to stop it and why it happens in the first place has seen less collectivity.

Anyone who uses the term "collective", and is not talking about helicopters, is my mortal enemy.

-ccm

36 posted on 02/19/2008 9:18:36 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
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"Back off!"


37 posted on 02/19/2008 9:22:54 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Fewer liberals,

MORE LIBERTY.


38 posted on 02/19/2008 9:23:43 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Cobra64

cute chicks with guns. who could ask for more.


39 posted on 02/19/2008 9:24:57 AM PST by robomatik (Wine plug: RenascentVineyards.com (Riesling, Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot))
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To: robomatik
Ah! Gun porn!

P220 works for me:

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40 posted on 02/19/2008 9:27:24 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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