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To: Cicero
There is no basis in international law for this unilateral declaration of independence.

You're right. It's obviously time for the United States to be condemned as illegal, since they had "no right under international law to declare unilateral independence" in 1776.
14 posted on 02/17/2008 12:12:48 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
The United States did most of its fighting on its own and drew up its own Constitution. I read that the Kosovo "constitution" has been written by Germany.

They are having everyone do everything for them and they are not a country which could support and defend itself on its own.

The quasi statelet exists due to western geopolitical maneuverings and does not have any of the potential or homegrown smarts that the American colonists did.

19 posted on 02/17/2008 12:18:20 PM PST by joan
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To: canuck_conservative

Besides, the Albanians already have their own country - Albania. They desire a greater Albania of Kosovo, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro, Chameria in Greece, etc. This will encourage them.


20 posted on 02/17/2008 12:20:30 PM PST by joan
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To: canuck_conservative
It's obviously time for the United States to be condemned as illegal, since they had "no right under international law to declare unilateral independence" in 1776.

There was no international organization that could impose or create international law then.

There is now, and this is pretty flimsy on the face of it.
Kosovars did not rise up and take the country away from Serbia.
It was taken by outside force, and that is as shaky as it gets from a legal standpoint.

29 posted on 02/17/2008 12:39:20 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: canuck_conservative

You didn’t read the first part of my post. You can be a sovereign nation if you have enough power to make it stick. If you can defend yourself against internal enemies and establish a rule of law within your country, then de facto you are a sovereign nation. International Law has always recognized that.

If Britain had been able to take the US back in 1812, then too bad for America. But they couldn’t do it. Canada has gradually been cutting back on its dominion status, with British permission. It would be interesting to see what happened if England objected. But England doesn’t really have the power to stop it. So they go through the motions of giving permission, since Canada prefers it that way.

It’s another matter for a group of countries to band together to wrest a province from a sovereign state and set it up as “sovereign,” when it can’t defend itself and when it probably can’t establish any decent rule of law either. The current government of Kosovo consists of terrorists, and is busy burning churches and killing gypsies, yet it relies on the West to defend it?


45 posted on 02/17/2008 1:41:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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