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Albania, Saudi Arabia first to recognize Kosovo?
B92 ^ | February 17, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 02/17/2008 11:56:48 AM PST by Bokababe

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To: isrul
Do you think Bush might back off if Putin got serious?

Depends what you mean by serious. Of course Putin would veto any UN recognition in the Security Council. But would he take strong measures, such as cutting off energy supplies to Europe? I don't know.

Russia backed down once in the face of the NATO attacks under clinton & Co., so they would probably have to do something more to block it than mere threatening words, or Bush might just assume that they'd back down again. I don't know.

41 posted on 02/17/2008 1:20:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
the greatest danger is that we, or the Germans and the French, or other clueless members of what used to be called western civilization, would intervene again on the wrong side.

Yes, we are so easily manipulated. But if we were to be dragged back in, I'd become a Balkan war protester, with signs saying to spare our great fighting forces from having anything to do with that grotesque farce.

42 posted on 02/17/2008 1:38:38 PM PST by xJones
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks; All; Kolokotronis; Bokababe

Bulgaria Nationalists Slam Kosovo Independence

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=90460


43 posted on 02/17/2008 1:38:38 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: brazzaville

Good Afternoon, it was in jest. They will recognize any attempt to recognize kosovo as an independent state, not in a good way of course.


44 posted on 02/17/2008 1:41:09 PM PST by CJ Wolf (To Join or leave the offical Ron Paul 'let freedom' Ping, Freepmail me.)
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To: canuck_conservative

You didn’t read the first part of my post. You can be a sovereign nation if you have enough power to make it stick. If you can defend yourself against internal enemies and establish a rule of law within your country, then de facto you are a sovereign nation. International Law has always recognized that.

If Britain had been able to take the US back in 1812, then too bad for America. But they couldn’t do it. Canada has gradually been cutting back on its dominion status, with British permission. It would be interesting to see what happened if England objected. But England doesn’t really have the power to stop it. So they go through the motions of giving permission, since Canada prefers it that way.

It’s another matter for a group of countries to band together to wrest a province from a sovereign state and set it up as “sovereign,” when it can’t defend itself and when it probably can’t establish any decent rule of law either. The current government of Kosovo consists of terrorists, and is busy burning churches and killing gypsies, yet it relies on the West to defend it?


45 posted on 02/17/2008 1:41:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bokababe
I think all of us are recognizing them.

God bless them and democracy...they look free to me!!!!!

46 posted on 02/17/2008 1:44:32 PM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! AAAALLWAYS!)
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To: joan
Besides, the Albanians already have their own country - Albania. They desire a greater Albania of Kosovo, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro, Chameria in Greece, etc. This will encourage them.

People in Albania itself, want no part of that. It is the Albanians in Kosovo that see themselves as the leaders of "Greater Albania." And they are ultimately a threat to Albania itself, which is still mostly secular, thanks to the legacy of Enver Hoxha.

47 posted on 02/17/2008 1:46:51 PM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: isrul

We help other countries trying to become democratic...This one is showing the guts to make their own claim, so how can we not recognize them???


48 posted on 02/17/2008 1:47:02 PM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! AAAALLWAYS!)
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To: Cicero; All

Here’s Bush’s take from Tanzania:

“President George Bush said on a visit to Africa that the United States “will continue to work with our allies to make sure there’s no violence in Kosovo.”

The breakaway province is expected to declare its independence from Serbia on Sunday. The move has outraged Serbia and its ally Russia, which has warned it would set a dangerous precedent for separatist groups worldwide.

“We are heartened by the fact that the Kosovo government has clearly proclaimed its willingness and its desire to support Serbian rights in Kosovo,” Bush said at a press conference in Tanzania.

“We also believe it’s in Serbia’s interest to be aligned with Europe and the Serbian people can know that they have a friend in America.”

Sort of makes me want to vomit.


49 posted on 02/17/2008 1:48:29 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: bannie

Braindead?


50 posted on 02/17/2008 1:51:57 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks; All; Kolokotronis; Bokababe

The Bulgarian conservatives say this about narco state
kosovo

“Ataka party insists that Bulgaria refuse to recognize the independence of this artificially-born country that would bless a handful of criminals at its helm,” Volen Siderov, leader of the country’s biggest nationalist party, commented in an interview for Darik radio hours before the official proclamation of independence.

“It is like electing Dimitar Zhelyazkov for prime minister of Bulgaria,” Siderov said, referring to one of the key players on the country’s drug market, who was recently sentenced to a meagre 4,5 years in jail.


51 posted on 02/17/2008 1:52:54 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: bannie
Don't you mean, "May Allah Bless them?"

The bin Laden mosque in Kosovo, renamed when the word got out on it. Albanians urinating on a church they destroyed & sending photos to their friends Proudly turning 14th century churches to rubble.

My "God Bless Them?" Too late, Bannie,I think that the Devil already has!

52 posted on 02/17/2008 1:57:04 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: xJones

Actually, most Freepers were opposed to clinton’s war in Yugoslavia at the time it happened. We even found ourselves allied with some famous peaceniks, who for once were absolutely right.

I think I helped persuade people here in the forum back then as to what was going on.


53 posted on 02/17/2008 1:57:48 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bokababe

“Albania, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and some other Muslim countries will lead the way, the report says.”

No surprise here. Their biggest victory over Christianity in a loooong time, with the help of the US. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Osama Bin Laden himself on the news tonight, doing a dance of joy. It’s like a freakin’ Bizarro-world, I tell ya.


54 posted on 02/17/2008 1:58:58 PM PST by Serb29 ("Fear can only prevail when victims are ignorant of the facts ". - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Serb29

So in exchange for us doing Saudi Arabia and the muslim world this favor by recognizing Kosovo, are all these nations now finally going to recognize Iraq?

Are they going to stop sending aid to help the rebels in Iraq?

Are they in fact going to do anything at all for us?

I thought not. . .


55 posted on 02/17/2008 2:01:58 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: canuck_conservative; joan; FormerLib; Bokababe; Kolokotronis

The American Revolutionary patriots got NO help from France whasoever until they had won some key battles (e.g., Saratoga). And our leaders were among the most educated and advanced people in the world. 1770’s-1780’s America was roughly equivalent to Periclean Athens.

In contrast, the “Kosovo independence” project was hatched from the outside (US, Germany, other EU countries, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Turkey) from the beginning. Kosovo Albanian leaders are cutthroat mafiosi, mass murderers, clan-feudists, and jihadists, and many of them are near-illiterate. They are among the most primitive people in the world. 1990s-2000s Albanian Kosovo is roughly equivalent to Neanderthal Europe.

Please do not insult our American founding fathers with your ignorant diatribes.


56 posted on 02/17/2008 2:03:09 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: CJ Wolf
Good afternoon.
“...not in a good way of course.”

You can bet on that, eh.

Michael Frazier

57 posted on 02/17/2008 2:27:08 PM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Kolokotronis
"Sort of makes me want to vomit."

That's two of us!

58 posted on 02/17/2008 2:31:29 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: isrul

GWBush has nothing to do with this.

The state department has totally disregared the Bush administration. Condalezza Rice is no longer in charge as demonstrated by the recent disregard for her writings. (she can’t even get an article of hers published)

This Balkan BBQ is concocted by the desk jocky careerists who are in a USSR state of mind. The ones who think it is bad for the USA to be the sole superpower.


59 posted on 02/17/2008 2:35:33 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bokababe
I really must have this all wrong. Aren't the rebels the good guys in this case?


60 posted on 02/17/2008 3:04:10 PM PST by bannie (clintons even cheat in the daylight.)
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