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To: unspun
So then, why would we need Mike Huckabee to ‘fight for a classless society’ if we already have one?

What policies and positions do you think Mike Huckabee would champion in order to bring about to preserve a ‘classless society’?

With all your rantings about Megastockholders and Megacorporations and then going on about ‘fighting for a classless society’ I wondered how this would be different than the many others in the last century who ‘fought for a classless society’ by nationalizing the means of production and abolishing private property.

And when confronted with ‘classless society’ being a DIRECT quote from Karl Marx you said that was not the case (it is) and tried to claim it was a quote from Lincoln or Jefferson (it isn’t).

Do you admit that
a) Karl Marx wrote that phrase ‘classless society’ hundreds of times; and

b) Lincoln or Jefferson never actually used that particular phrase and neither did they mean or believe in what most people who use that particular phrase mean or believe (i.e. instituting Communism)?

You keep going on about how Jefferson or Lincoln believed all men are created equal, and attempting to conflate that belief with them actually saying that there was a need in the U.S.A. to ‘fight for a classless society’.

It is despicable to besmirch these two men by trying to pass off Communist rhetoric as an actual quote (your first attempt) or as something implicit in their beliefs (your backup strategy). And now you say it is Rush Limbaugh who lacks intelligence? That is almost funny.

116 posted on 02/15/2008 2:11:01 PM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: allmendream
Just a note. There is a difference in the monarchy and “noble” classes of Europe that confronted Jefferson and to a lesser extent Lincoln and the economic classless society of Karl Marx. America and her ideals are spit in the eye to BOTH the idea of being ruled by Kings (as God’s prerogative) and being ruled by the dictatorship of the proletariat as the socialistic stopgap to pure (and unachievable) communism.

Lincoln raised himself up by his bootstraps to be the “log cabin to White House” American success story. This type of democratic republicanism puts to shame the ruling monarchies of his day — as well as puts to shame Karl Marx’s idea that once you are in the lower worker class, you can never rise above it. American capitalism and republican democracy. It works.

118 posted on 02/15/2008 2:22:24 PM PST by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: allmendream
So then, why would we need Mike Huckabee to ‘fight for a classless society’ if we already have one?

Because it is a principle -- an ideal that we must own up to. All have the same, equal rights. That is so elementary, one shouldn't have to explain it to you -- and I'm not going to wast my time in a conceptual miasma with you being the audience for my describing Huckabee's policies. I've got people in Wisconsin to call.

You are the one focusing on communism. Go fixate on Karl Marx somewhere, but don't troll me. You're annoying.

138 posted on 02/15/2008 6:30:40 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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