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Secret Is Out: RUSH Helps McCain
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| February 14, 2008
| Rush Limbaugh
Posted on 02/14/2008 9:21:51 PM PST by Yosemitest
Secret Is Out: Rush Helps McCain
February 14, 2008
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: The Drive-By Media, ladies and gentlemen, two days later is still fascinated with my claim that I am actually the greatest asset Senator McCain has. Because were I to endorse him -- said I -- it would send all the moderates and the independents and the liberals that are supporting him scurrying away, such is their dislike, their hate, their loathing for me. So this is being discussed still on the cable shows.
Morning Joe today, Joe Scarborough had Mary Matalin on as a guest on the phone. Scarborough said,
"You agree with Rush that it's the moderates and not the conservatives that are really embracing McCain right now?"
MATALIN: Rush is a genius. He's a genius on philosophy, he's a genius on policy, but most importantly, he's a genius on being able to communicate difficult ideas and make them accessible to people.
And it bears repeating, something the mainstream press doesn't seem to understand. He reflects his audience, which is highly informed and active and curious, and they participate in this process. He does not direct them.
If Rush did endorse him then all the moderates and independents who don't listen to him and don't understand what he's about would have a knee-jerk reaction. He's just a genius.
RUSH: (laughter) Mary Matalin. She wasn't through. She kept plowing on.
MATALIN: He's helping McCain in a very significant way, which is while McCain is regrouping, and he got a really good start at CPAC.
You were there, Joe. It was a great event. And he did a great job starting to rally and unite and articulate core conservative principles and the policies that would flow from them. Rush keeps informing people and making them understand what those principles are the policies that would be better for this country.
So he's a huge help to McCain every conceivable way.
RUSH: The secret's getting out. You know, the secret's
-- once the secret's out it's not a secret. When you have a marketing plan, you don't tell people about it because they prepares 'em. You just execute it. I gotta come up with another marketing plan here to stay a couple steps ahead of the game.
They also discussed whether I'm secretly helping McCain on Chatsworth Osborne, Jr.'s show on DNCTV. He was talking to another guy, Joe Mathieu, a radio host. They had in exchange about moi.
CARLSON: Rush Limbaugh -- who I think is a really talented guy, a witty guy -- lost control of himself a couple of weeks ago on the question of John McCain. Got hysterical and hissy on the air. It would destroy the Republican Party if McCain's the nominee.
Now that McCain essentially is the nominee, here is what Rush Limbaugh is saying -- which I don't buy for a second. Quote: "If I really wanted to torpedo McCain," (boy screams)
"I would endorse him, because that would send the independents and liberals that are going to vote for him running away faster than anything.
What people don't realize is, I'm doing McCain the biggest favor that could be done for him by staying out.
If I endorse him thoroughly, with passion, that would end the independents and moderates because they so despise me, they so hate me."
That is quite a narcissistic view about the electoral system -- it's all about Rush Limbaugh, but -- do you think that's true?
MATHIEU: I actually think there's a certain amount of truth to that, especially as maybe he was just saying, how important the independent vote will be for Senator McCain in a general election.
RUSH: There you go. So the radio host sets Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. straight. (interruption)
See, this is the thing. This came up last Friday, maybe it was Monday. I went to the little riff here on all this criticism.
I don't take it personally. You can't. There's just too much of it. I don't give people that kind of power over my feelings. I am not going to sit here and take all this criticism personally. I have been criticized over 20 years more than your average presidential candidate in one campaign cycle! You can't take it personally.
So "this little twit," according to Snerdley (that's what he called him in the IFB just now), called me narcissist.
See, what happened in that conversation, Dawn and everybody said... (
Oh, by the way, Dawn, I gotta tell you. Dawn sent me a humidifier. They got so alarmed when I said that I was going to put a pot of boiling water on the stove here to keep the apartment humidified during the cold weather up here so I didn't lose my voice like I did last time, they sent me a humidifier. Dawn did it, but she signed Snerdley and Brian's name to the card. I know they had nothing to do with it.
(laughing) Well, yeah, you bought doughnuts, but yip yip yip yip yahoo.)
So, anyway, Snerdley, they said last week when I was going through this riff about I don't take things personally, said, "Well, we take it personally for you."
So he listens to Chatsworth Osborne, Jr., call me a narcissist, or narcissistic and ego-driven and demands that I respond to this. "How dare this little guy?"
Snerdley, it's not... I would have already been through the next sound bite by now, if you hadn't interrupted me on this, and the audience will agree with me. I get e-mails: "You tell Snerdley to quit interrupting you!"
So, anyway, Chris Matthews. Let's see. He can't buy my McCain theory, either. This is what he said. MATTHEWS: Is Rush Limbaugh actually John McCain's best buddy secretly, his saving grace, his biggest booster?
Sort of, at least according to Rush himself. Here he is, the man on the radio.
RUSH ARCHIVE: If I really wanted to torpedo McCain, I would endorse him
-- if I wanted to torpedo McCain
-- because that would send the independents and liberals that are going to vote for him running away faster than anything.
What people don't realize is, I'm doing McCain the biggest favor could be done for him, by staying out of this. If I endorsed him thoroughly, with passion, that would end the independents and moderates, 'cause they so despise me and they so hate me.
MATTHEWS: I love the way he lowered his voice there:
Anyway, still something tells me that John McCain right now would gladly like nothing more than a Rush Limbaugh big, fat endorsement.
RUSH: So Chris Matthews not buying my secret plan, and neither did Chatsworth Osborne, Jr.
One more, before we go to the break.
This is John King. (Is this right?) It was CNN's election center. The anchor is Campbell Brown, there's a panel discussion now. Larry Elder, Jeffrey Toobin, and John King about me and McCain. And Campbell Brown says, "You know, the talk radio issue, there was enormous anger coming from that crowd toward McCain. Are they that influential?"
ELDER: There's Rush Limbaugh and then there's everybody else in terms of influence.
TOOBIN: I just think the talk radio thing is more a symptom of the personality disorders of the talk radio hosts.
ELDER: Hey! Hey! Hey!
TOOBIN: Rather than -- present company excluded.
ELDER: Let's take it outside.
ELDER: No, no, no. I'm fine with you.
BROWN: Isn't in their interest to be against whoever, whether John McCain or a Democrat in the White House?
TOOBIN: They're trying to show how important they are, rather than trying to affect a policy debate. I don't think they matter very much.
KING: They thrive on conflict. The conversations are under way. Friends of Rush Limbaugh, who are friendly with John McCain started the conversations.
BROWN: Is there going to be a summit?
TOOBIN: That's right.
KING: They're beginning the quiet diplomacy with them.
TOOBIN: That's right.
KING: You watch. John McCain is going to show up on these shows in the next weeks and months.
RUSH: Whoa!
Is this happening, H.R.? Snerdley is no doubt, after listening to this bite, seething over Jeffrey Toobin saying, "They're just trying to show how important they are, rather than trying to affect the policy debate."
I don't know if Toobin read the TIME piece.
But even if he reads the TIME piece, he will ignore what I said and stick with his narrative and template, which is 180 degrees wrong.
John King, what did he say here? "Conversations are underway. Friends of Limbaugh, friends with McCain have started the conversations. They're beginning quiet diplomacy."
I can tell you, ladies and gentlemen: if this is happening, I am unaware of it.
Well, it's possible we've been infiltrated, and there might be people claiming to be my friends who aren't my friends; talking to McCain's friends.
I don't know, but I don't know anything about it. BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: George Skelton, who writes for the LA Times from Sacramento, the headline is really all you need to hear on this LA Times story. "Heading Starboard Could Sink McCain in California."
Going left was the most promising route in California, McCain better stay to the port. He goes starboard, he embraces Limbaugh, it's over in California. He's not going to win California anyway.
This is my point.
Let's say I went out to California, I have reasons to go there, and lets say I endorsed McCain, that would kill him in California because the independents and Democrats that were going to vote for him, "Not now. Not that Limbaugh is on his side, no way."
It could be fun. Curt in East Bay of San Francisco.
Hi. Nice to have you on the program, sir.
CURT: Well, thanks, Rush.
Mega dittos from the California Republican.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: I have two points.
For one of the few times that I know of since listening to your show, conservative talk radio and most of the mainstream media have a common goal, and that is the demise of the Clintons and Hillary Clinton's presidential run. That's my first point.
And the second point is,
a few years ago you said that candidates that Bill Clinton endorses generally lose.
I'm going to hang up and listen to your reply. Thanks, Rush.
RUSH: I did say that, but what do you want to know about that?
Wow, that's the fastest hang-up of somebody who wasn't mad that I can remember.
He doesn't help.
Look, he hasn't helped her. He's created all kinds of problems in South Carolina, now he's back in Waukesha, Wisconsin, and didn't look happy in the crowd.
As to the Drive-Bys and talk radio being on the same page, anti-Hillary, I've not made up my mind on that.
In terms of if you're going to express a preference on the Democrat side, who would you rather run against and then who would you rather have as president, Obama or Hillary,
I know that there's a lot of people that would just celebrate the demise of the Clintons, whenever it happens, the sooner the better. Get 'em outta here, it would be happy days.
The Drive-Bys may like Obama right now, but I will guarantee you if Hillary becomes the nominee, the love fest will kick back in gear full speed ahead because they're not going to end up touting our side.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Doug, Fayetteville, North Carolina, nice to have you, sir. Welcome to the EIB Network.
CALLER: Sir, I appreciate you taking my call very much.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: By the way, I love your promos. They're great.
I was wondering, something I've been asking people and I haven't gotten a good answer from anybody about, so I thought I would ask you, it concerns McCain.
For years he's been the media darling, the maverick, he goes against his own party, they love each other.
And my question was, if he becomes president, then he's no longer going to be a maverick, he's going to be the establishment. And what's going to happen when all of a sudden the media turn against him because he's no longer the lovable maverick that they've had before.
RUSH: Well, I think that might happen before he wins the presidency or is inaugurated. It depends.
But if he wants to hold on to the maverick label, it would be simple as pie to do it, especially if he wins the White House, it would be easy. We talked about this yesterday.
You have to think, just based on voter enthusiasm -- I hope this is not true. This is conventional wisdom right now, but even the Republicans whose business it is to calculate these things, will tell you that the Democrat majorities in the House and Senate are going to increase.
Right now they're pretty narrow and they can't get a lot done, plus they got Bush vetoing things but they're going to have a bigger margin. All they need is 60 votes in the Senate. If they get up to 53 to 55 Senators, they're going to have four or five liberal Republicans that will join 'em to get to 60.
The House majority, Nancy Pelosi says if Obama wins, he's a going to bring 75 new seats to the House for Democrats.
If all that happens, McCain's going to have no choice but than to work with the Democrats, because all presidents want to get things done.
And unfortunately today, you define getting things done by the number of bills you pass in a bipartisan way and how much you advance the liberal agenda. That's how getting things done is defined.
All presidents want to be thought of as,
McCain's going to find it so easy to continue being maverick, just agree with the Democrats. He's going to practically have no choice, if these projections are right.
I don't see any problem for him holding onto the maverick status. It's this particular stage leading up to the convention, at the convention, and then on to the general election, that's where he's
-- in fact, let's go to sound bites. I got a couple sound bites.
Ron Reagan -- I'm not going to play the sound bite.
Ron Reagan was on Larry King Alive last night, and Larry King Alive is back to his old tricks, talking about people like me as wackos. He asks Ron Reagan what his dad's version of the wackos today might be. Ron Reagan gives his answer, but he does say, "Look, if McCain starts naming cabinet members to mollify the right wing of his party, i.e., the base, a lot of independents are going to look at that and say, 'I don't want any part of this.'"
So Ron Reagan, thinking that he's agreeing with Larry King that I'm a wacko, is essentially agreeing with my secret plan to not endorse McCain because, were I to do that, I'd drive independents and liberals away from McCain just like Ron Reagan thinks a conservative cabinet or vice president would do the same thing. Later on in the program, they brought in James Carville, and Larry King said,
"James, most of the time politicians win the nomination and they run to the center. Does McCain run to the center?"
Now Larry, I know you got a distinguished career, but McCain is already at the center, and he's got a tip-toe or two on the left.
Look at this. Everybody's talking about McCain's conservative rating, conservative voting record, lifetime voting record, and he touted as an 82 on conservative issues.
Well, Ann Coulter ran the math. His rating in 2006 was 65. Jon Kyl from Arizona in 2006 was 97. In the past ten years only four Republicans have had a lower conservative rating than McCain: Lincoln Chafee, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, and the maverick Arlen Specter.
But the past two, three years McCain has not been anywhere near the top of the ranking in conservative votes in the Senate. You have to go and take his whole Senate career and average it out to get that 80 number.
But the last ten years he hasn't been that. So he's at the center, Larry, anyway. Anyway, here's Carville's answer to this idiotic question.
CARVILLE: I don't know, 51% in Virginia is a pathetic number.
And I mean I don't say that as a Democrat. Virginia is typically a very orderly state.
I think the brief between McCain and the conservatives is real, and it's not just Washington or the radio talk show people. Those conservatives out in the hinterland don't much care for McCain and I suspect he doesn't much care for them either.
RUSH: Carville is on to something. He may be irritating now and then, but he's not stupid.
He knows it's not just conservative talk radio McCain has a problem with. There are people
-- he refers to them as the hinterland. I refer to it as the place where the people that make the country work live. But he's at least right about that.
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To: Mr. Silverback
Excellent point, but did you mean....
“If we accept an inept commander in chief in a time of war so we can pick up seats [later]sic, we have chosen party over country. I will not do so.” ?
I agree completely with the above statement. Four days of a Clinton/Obama administration would be too many, even if it ensured a majority in two years. Four years is unthinkable. Better an actual war hero, and the father of a military veteran just back from Iraq than an administration that ‘loathes’ the military.
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:15:29 AM PST
by
allmendream
("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
To: End Times Crusader
Get a grip. Rush willl be on board soon. right now he’s doing the only thing he can do to promote Regan conservatism. Soon he will adopt Reagan’s “I’d rather get 80% than march off the cliff with my flag flying.”
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:16:44 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
To: Yosemitest
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:18:40 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
To: SFConservative
Conservatives in Congress and elsewhere can exert a significant amount of restraint on a President McCain's liberal tendencies There is no evidence to support McCain's being susceptible to conservative pressure.
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:21:20 AM PST
by
MortMan
(Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
To: Yosemitest
I don't see McCain doing this... Then your imagination is so poor I wouldn't be surprised if you have trouble imagining the Earth as a sphere. I'm sitting here with my mouth hanging open at the idiocy of the idea that McCain would not fight the terrorists. Who put his politicaal career on the line for the Surge all year, genius?
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:21:33 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
To: allmendream
I did mean earlier, becaause I think the GOP will get the Congress back eventually (there's no such thing as a permanent majority) and the sixth year of a Dem administration would be the most likely time. That said, your version is better and I'll be using that from now on.
Hillary could come back (don't believe the witch is dead until her feet curl back under the house) but I'm seeing Obama as the likely Dem nomminee, and I noticed something about him the other day: He was still pooping in a diaper when McCain was sitting alert in Skyraiders on the Enterprise during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:27:14 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
To: dorben; Cindy; txflake; TigersEye; roamer_1; HiramQuick; TADSLOS; Walkingfeather
Could those of you who say you'll never vote for McCain explain something to me?
Why is it conservative to accept an inept commander-in-chief in a time of war?
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:28:47 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Everybody’s gonna vote for McLettuce in November.
We’re just going to torture him, as he has us, until then.
Turnabout is fair play.
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:32:25 AM PST
by
txhurl
To: Yosemitest
Rush is closing in on his Lonesome Rhodes moment.
To: txflake
Fair enough. Thanks for stepping up.
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posted on
02/15/2008 7:41:23 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
To: Mr. Silverback
Why is it conservative to accept an inept commander-in-chief in a time of war?Do you know what Conservatism is? Do you understand the definition of Reagan Conservatism?
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posted on
02/15/2008 8:07:33 AM PST
by
roamer_1
(Conservative always, Republican no more.)
To: jonrick46
Maybe we don’t want to go there!
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posted on
02/15/2008 8:09:11 AM PST
by
Piquaboy
(22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
To: Walkingfeather
Perfect.
You do that and when all you so called conservatives sit out the race and the Democrats win then we can blame all of you for the even more liberal policies that get put in place.
Those hard core conservatives that want to sit out the race are just acting like a bunch of cry babies. You can’t stand the fact that most Republicans like McCain and so like spoiled little children you run away and hide in the corner.
Truely a pathetic display from a group of people who say they love this country most.
To: Mr. Silverback
Unlike you, I’m not so sure that McCain would not be an inept CIC. After all, he’s for closing Gitmo and has whined excessively about waterboarding being torture.
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posted on
02/15/2008 8:18:56 AM PST
by
beandog
(Quit serving me mud and telling me it's chocolate pie.)
To: Almondjoy
What’s really pathetic is people like you who think they can bully people into voting for somebody they don’t want to. My son, who served with the Marines in Iraq, does not want to vote for McCain. He has every right to make whatever decison he wants to without vicious name calling from the likes of people like you.
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posted on
02/15/2008 8:23:56 AM PST
by
beandog
(Quit serving me mud and telling me it's chocolate pie.)
To: maine-iac7
""We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools." MLK So true. I see opportunity to spread our ideals to the moderates in the Big Tent Republican Party. Ronald Reagan would want us to do so. Those people who say, "No way am I voting for McCain!" are the same cut and run mentality that calls for the U.S. to get out of Iraq. Very foolish thinking in my book.
To: roamer_1
Do you know what Conservatism is? Do you understand the definition of Reagan Conservatism? Yes, I do, but since you seem to think I don't, answer my question and give me an education:
Why is it conservative to accept an inept commander-in-chief in a time of war?
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posted on
02/15/2008 9:21:15 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
To: beandog
After all, hes for closing Gitmo and has whined excessively about waterboarding I disagree with him on that, but the idea that he's not miles ahead of Obama and Hillary on these issues is a little silly. Obama doesn't even want to listen to terrorist phone calls.
There is no comparison on national security. Making perfect the enemy of good in a time of war is suicidal.
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posted on
02/15/2008 9:24:03 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war.)
To: Almondjoy
You cant stand the fact that most Republicans like McCain
Wrong.
People can't stand the fact that, aside from the conflict in Iraq, McCain's position on every major issue is IDENTICAL to that of Hillary and Obama. Don't tell me he's a tough guy in the WOT, either; Iraq is only ONE front in the war we are in. McCain has shown his liberal tendencies in nearly every other facet of this war... anti-waterboarding, closing Gitmo, prosecuting terrorists in civilian courts, open borders, UN oversight in US military deployment... you name it.
The fact that the republican establishment endorses McCain is a non-starter for any thinking person, because it was the current republican't party that gave us such winning philosophies as compassionate conservatism, amnesty, open primaries, globalism, McCain-Feingold, and the like.
So go ahead and support McCain, you who claim to love America. Do you honestly think that John McCain will save our civilization, our American culture, from its slide towards the abyss?
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posted on
02/15/2008 9:26:40 AM PST
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
To: presently no screen name
Presently writes...
Like there will never be another Reagan, there will never be another Rush! Let's enjoy him while we have him; hopefully, for, at least, another 30 years. And I agree, wholeheartedly my FRiend.
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posted on
02/15/2008 9:33:58 AM PST
by
Seaplaner
(Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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