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Marry Him! The case for settling for Mr. Good Enough
Atlantic Monthly ^ | March 2008 | Lori Gottlieb

Posted on 02/14/2008 6:25:05 AM PST by reaganaut1

About six months after my son was born, he and I were sitting on a blanket at the park with a close friend and her daughter. It was a sunny summer weekend, and other parents and their kids picnicked nearby—mothers munching berries and lounging on the grass, fathers tossing balls with their giddy toddlers. My friend and I, who, in fits of self-empowerment, had conceived our babies with donor sperm because we hadn’t met Mr. Right yet, surveyed the idyllic scene.

“Ah, this is the dream,” I said, and we nodded in silence for a minute, then burst out laughing. In some ways, I meant it: we’d both dreamed of motherhood, and here we were, picnicking in the park with our children. But it was also decidedly not the dream. The dream, like that of our mothers and their mothers from time immemorial, was to fall in love, get married, and live happily ever after. Of course, we’d be loath to admit it in this day and age, but ask any soul-baring 40-year-old single heterosexual woman what she most longs for in life, and she probably won’t tell you it’s a better career or a smaller waistline or a bigger apartment. Most likely, she’ll say that what she really wants is a husband (and, by extension, a child).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: betteroffsingle; culturewar; danquaylewasright; family; feminazis; genx; gottlieb; love; marriage; murphybrown; murphybrownwasawhore; quaylewasajerk; relationships; savethemales; singlemothers
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To: reaganaut1

The #1 thing I look for in a woman is balance. After that it’s wisdom - the ability to think and judge.

What I find to be the problem with most women is they don’t understand balance. There are too many ‘mode’ women out there - women that conform themselves to a certain image. Most women I run into are either skank or absolute obsessive compulsive anal princess, especially with the kids. Or some other kneejerk, inflexible caricature they’re trying to be.

I want a woman that can go to church and have a beer from time to time. Someone who’s a good mom, but knows when to drop the kids at grandmas so we have a night on the town. Someone who’s independent enough to make decisions, but considerate enough to keep me in the loop on the important things BEFORE she goes off and does them. Someone who knows what’s important in a man and relationship and what’s not.

Most women I meet simply are not balanced. They live in their little world, their little way of doing things, their little social subculture, their little experiences. They have no ability to get beyond themselves and their little lives and actually get along with someone who’s not exactly like them.

Which is why they never find a man - because no one is exactly like them. They want an object, not a person, and they stopped growing so long ago and are so set in their ways they simply don’t have the interpersonal skills anymore to relate to someone.


201 posted on 02/14/2008 9:44:34 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Don't think I can vote for you John, I'm feelin' like a maverick.)
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To: TalonDJ
I worked hard to be where I was happy not being married before ever found Jen. I knew there were things I wanted out of marriage but I wanted to be happy with who I was and more or less where I was.

Lots of wisdom there, my FRiend.
202 posted on 02/14/2008 9:48:25 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: Lazamataz

You still have time for marriage and may it be everything you hoped for and then some!

: )


203 posted on 02/14/2008 9:51:50 AM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: najida
Ok so what does one do when they have married for the wrong reason and now find themselves stuck in marriage that is swallowing them ..p> Chistian's God hates divorce and so do all his church-goers. Great to be shunned from the building. /sarc

The prospects of dating, even if one does finally give up are hopeless.

Is their such a thing as PTSD for the married?

204 posted on 02/14/2008 9:52:55 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: TalonDJ

I have seen threads like that and the entertainment factor is priceless.


205 posted on 02/14/2008 9:53:59 AM PST by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: JamesP81

“I don’t know if I’m quite part of this club yet, but I’m filling in the membership form even as we speak. And I’m only 4 years removed from college...”

Don’t worry if it is a bit depressing at first, you will soon start to feel much more at peace about a lot of things. It is rather empowering.


206 posted on 02/14/2008 9:54:59 AM PST by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
How many men have settled for Miss “Oh my God I’ll never drink again”?

Or Now I'll have to get drunk every night...
207 posted on 02/14/2008 9:56:20 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Bear_Slayer

Yes, there is....been there done that....

You can and will survive.

Freepmail me if you need to.


208 posted on 02/14/2008 9:57:58 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: volunbeer
I hope so.

Cuz Mr. Glock keeps whisperin' to me.

(No not really, I'm just bummed today.)

209 posted on 02/14/2008 9:58:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (Why isn’t this in Breaking News????)
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To: Keith Brown

So you’re saying that you would marry a woman like the author of this column, bastard and all?

Have a great life as a doormat.


210 posted on 02/14/2008 10:02:42 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Lazamataz
I had to move on from the women, I thought was the woman of my dreams. She wasn't.

I'm sorry it didn't work out for you Laz. You sounded awfully happy there for awhile.

211 posted on 02/14/2008 10:11:31 AM PST by Dianna
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To: reaganaut1

I think the article points out that women need men as much as men need women. The sterile lives that these people live is disgusting.


212 posted on 02/14/2008 10:13:47 AM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: JamesP81; rintense; CSM
I don't know if I'm quite part of this club yet, but I'm filling in the membership form even as we speak. And I'm only 4 years removed from college...

If it were me, I'd use this thread to meet other Freepers of like mind...

213 posted on 02/14/2008 10:13:53 AM PST by Dianna
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To: Tax-chick
If they accept that this is what human beings are like, they can have a long and happy marriage, in which each changes for the better.

Funny, every time I'm annoyed with my husband, these threads tend to pop up and I remember how fabulously lucky I am.

Damn it.

214 posted on 02/14/2008 10:18:01 AM PST by Dianna
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To: RosieCotton

I tend to think that married people are messed up.....they are needy, fell out of the norm or afraid to be alone....they can’t live life without depending on someone (like the liberals depend on government).


215 posted on 02/14/2008 10:20:37 AM PST by Fawn
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To: madprof98
Not much of a life for the poor child. These women should get pet lizards instead. What they are doing to their children is evil.

Agreed, though I wouldn't suggest lizards. We women like warm, cuddly things as our child substitutes.

To any unattached ladies out there who may be reading this:
Take it from me -a mom of four- that even WITH a father, bringing up a child is the hardest, most exhausting you can ever do. Once you're a mother you will never ever sleep 100% soundly again.

Forget about having even one child without a father. It's impossible to do it well. Your child will grow up with a hole in his or her soul from not knowing his or her father. For that reason it is evil to do it intentionally.

216 posted on 02/14/2008 10:21:34 AM PST by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: driftdiver

I have a single, female, 42-yr old friend who is all that you just described. If she meets a man who is handsome and successful, he isn’t “spirital enough” for her. If she meets a man who is handsome and religious, he doesn’t make enough money. Etc. She has even dated a few guys who seemed to meet all the criteria, yet she’d pick them apart on something like “He doesn’t yearn to travel the world like I do!”

She also has a lot of issues regarding her diet. She is a food Nazi.


217 posted on 02/14/2008 10:22:50 AM PST by a real Sheila (Have you hugged your "furry best friend" today?)
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Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.

218 posted on 02/14/2008 10:26:48 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Free Vulcan
They have no ability to get beyond themselves and their little lives and actually get along with someone who’s not exactly like them.

Maybe you need to start by looking for women that ARE 'like you' before worrying about all that. When I found someone that matched me for politics (full spectrum), religion, family background, intelligence, child rearing philosophy, sense of humor, interests, and entertain activities, it was not at all surprising that we thought almost alike on everything else and had personalities that fit like a glove.
219 posted on 02/14/2008 10:27:19 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: r9etb

Thanks for posting that DB link.
Quite hilarious!!!


220 posted on 02/14/2008 10:28:49 AM PST by a real Sheila (Have you hugged your "furry best friend" today?)
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