Rurudyne's Daily Global Cooling Watch

Brits at their Best ^ | January 31, 2008 | unattributed

[Rocky]

How does all of this match with the historical trend? That is, as others have pointed out, the sun goes through 11-year cycles. How does the recent data compare with 11 years ago?

[GOPJ]

Thanks for keeping me posted ...

[Eva]

Do you know anything about acidic ocean currents? The Seattle Times had a front page article about the fact that acidic water had been detected off the west coast, and of course it was blamed on green house gases.

[Rurudyne]

Rocky wrote: "How does all of this match with the historical trend? That is, as others have pointed out, the sun goes through 11-year cycles. How does the recent data compare with 11 years ago?"

Here is a chart for measured solar flux values since the late 1950s (when scientist started measuring same as an indicator of solar activity—i.e. how hot it is).

Looking at that chart, it would seem that several years at a solar minimum isn't all that unusual. SC18 dropped below 100 around '52 and SC 19 was back above by '56. SC19 dropped under 100 around '62 and SC 20 (which didn't break 200 at its maximum) was up '68-ish. And so forth.

We look to have been in that state since around '04, so unless things drag out to next year this may not be all that unusual.

Even at a glance, SC23 could be said to have a lot less "under the curve" that either SC21 or 22 before it ... so it's not surprising that we've seen no warming this last decade (or even slight cooling) till last year when things began to be noticed (snow in either Jerusalem and Baghdad can really get folk's attention, never mind in both).

The only real reason to be concerned (about global cooling) comes from theoretical science that allows that there are cycles in solar activity longer than 11 years and on which the shorter cycle is more or less imposed (there is a link to something to that effect back in post #120).

These ideas are based on observations of sunspots (for which we have data going back for several hundred years) among other thing (like evidences for what pre-climate science climate was).

[Rurudyne]

I’m not going to pretend I know much (or even a lot of a little).

It looks like some are blaming it on acid rain from ordinary pollution while others are blaming it on warming because of absorbed gases into the water.

However, I’m a bit doubtful of the latter because warmer waters are actually less able to absorb and retain gases than cooler waters are. Global warming, where the oceans warm too, in and of itself should lead to less acidic water.

In the meantime we have measured slight drops in ocean temps world wide, though I can’t see how the small values measured could do much of anything. In theory though, a cold ocean can hold more gases in solution than a warm one.

[Rurudyne]

Maybe the Great Plains—flat, wide and relatively low?

[Eva]

I read somewhere that they were experimenting with pumping excess C02 into the ocean to get rid of it. Could this be the cause?

[Rurudyne]

Ohhhhh! I had FORGOTTEN about THAT! Hehe ... well, it’s right up there with wanting to spread coal tar on the ice caps to fight global cooling and fend off a new ice age (an actual ‘70s era idea) if they did.

[Rurudyne]

The Sun's Working Vacation : Day 141 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, when someone claimed to see a sunspot they called #10,981.


Saturday Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 23:00 on 2008:05:24

Julian Day Number : 2454611.447

Carrington Rotation Number : 2070.425

Observed Flux Density : 0068.3

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0070.1

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0063.1


Reference Post #120

[Rocky]

Great information! Thanks.

[Rurudyne]

The Sun's Working Vacation : Day 142 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, when someone claimed to see a sunspot they called #10,981.


Sunday Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 23:00 on 2008:05:25

Julian Day Number : 2454612.447

Carrington Rotation Number : 2070.461

Observed Flux Density : 0068.5

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0070.3

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0063.3


Reference Post #120

[Rurudyne]

The Sun's Working Vacation : Day 143 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, when someone claimed to see a sunspot they called #10,981.


Monday Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 20:00 on 2008:05:26

Julian Day Number : 2454613.322

Carrington Rotation Number : 2070.493

Observed Flux Density : 0068.0

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0069.8

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0062.8


Reference Post #120

[Rurudyne]

The Sun's Working Vacation : Day 144 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, when someone claimed to see a sunspot they called #10,981.


Tuesday Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 23:00 on 2008:05:27

Julian Day Number : 2454614.447

Carrington Rotation Number : 2070.535

Observed Flux Density : 0067.1

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0068.9

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0062.0


Reference Post #120

[Rurudyne]

]The Sun's Working Vacation : Day 145 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, when someone claimed to see a sunspot they called #10,981.


Wednesday Update


Flux Density Values in sfu for 23:00 on 2008:05:28

Julian Day Number : 2454615.447

Carrington Rotation Number : 2070.571

Observed Flux Density : 0067.4

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0069.3

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0062.3


Reference Post #120

[Rurudyne]

I don't know about the Sun
... but I was goofing off yesterday ...
Days 146 AND 147 of the Gore-Hansen Minimum


Dated from January 4th, 2008, when someone claimed to see a sunspot they called #10,981.


—Ping—


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Thursday's Numbers


Flux Density Values in sfu for 23:00 on 2008:05:29

Julian Day Number : 2454616.447

Carrington Rotation Number : 2070.608

Observed Flux Density : 0067.1

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0068.9

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0062.0


Friday's Numbers


Flux Density Values in sfu for 17:00 on 2008:05:30

Julian Day Number : 2454617.197

Carrington Rotation Number : 2070.635

Observed Flux Density : 0066.8

Flux Density Adjusted for 1 A.U. : 0068.6

URSI Series D Flux, Adj. x 0.9 : 0061.8




Red is Observed Flux Density. Blue is Adjusted for 1 A.U.

Reference Post #120

[Rurudyne]

I ... sorta forgot the “ping” aspect of that last ... erm ... “ping”.

My Bad.

[SunkenCiv]

What is the sound of no hand clapping?

[Interesting Times]

(grizzled cowboy gazing narrowly at the Sun)

"It's quiet up there.

TOO quiet."

[Rurudyne]

Great ... now I’ve got the “Sounds of Silence” rumbling through my head and it’ll probably be there all day long.

Well, at least it’s a song I like....

[TigersEye]

The sun is talking to itself and now you’re doing it. It must be contagious. heh