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Mayor kicks Marines out of Toledo [Toledo joins Berzerkley]
NBC 24.com Toledo ^ | Feb 9, 2008 | Darsha Philips

Posted on 02/09/2008 10:59:58 PM PST by Merlinator

Mayor kicks Marines out of Toledo 1-24th Marines were scheduled for weekend urban warfare training in downtown Toledo, when Carty gave them the boot

By Darsha Philips Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2008 at 2:05 p.m.

TOLEDO, OH -- Mayor Carty Finkbeiner on Friday ordered some 200 members of Company A, 1st Battalion, 24th Marines from Grand Rapids, Michigan, out of Toledo just before the unit was supposed to start a weekend of urban warfare training downtown.

The mayor’s spokesperson, Brian Schwartz said, “the mayor asked them to leave because they frighten people. He did not want them practicing and drilling in a highly visible area."

see article for mhttp://www.nbc24.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=94192ore

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Looks like Toledo's moonbat mayor needs some FReepin'
1 posted on 02/09/2008 11:00:01 PM PST by Merlinator
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To: Merlinator

Rat Fink mayor.


2 posted on 02/09/2008 11:01:58 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Merlinator

I hope they make a law that if the cities don’t want the soldiers in THEIR city - They WILL lose federal funds!

It’s as simple as that - No support for military - not money for cities’ pork!


3 posted on 02/09/2008 11:04:00 PM PST by Anita1 (Conservative for President in '08!! / Pro-life / Pro-border / Pro-American jobs / Strong Defense!))
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To: Merlinator
Mayor Carty Finkbeiner...

“the mayor asked them to leave because they frighten people.

you cannot make this stuff up.

4 posted on 02/09/2008 11:04:45 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (anyone can be a soldier in peacetime.)
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To: Anita1
No support for military - not money for cities’ pork!No support for military - not money for cities’ pork!

It seems like it would be more equitable to simply refuse to defend the city should the need ever arise...

5 posted on 02/09/2008 11:05:43 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (anyone can be a soldier in peacetime.)
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To: Merlinator
I think what the mayor did here was wrong, but it is far from morally equivalent to what Berkley did. The mayor should be allowing the Marines full access to public buildings and streets for their exercises, but denying them such is far different from trying to kick Marine recruiters out of town or giving anti-Marine protesters a dedicated parking spot.
6 posted on 02/09/2008 11:08:05 PM PST by Moral Hazard (John McCain is the worst Republican candidate, except for the other two)
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To: Merlinator

I think the mayor has a good point.
Unless the public was completely aware of what was going on, a tragedy could result.


7 posted on 02/09/2008 11:08:16 PM PST by devere
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I’m not defending Toledo, but the situations seem rather different. Berkeley called the Marines unwanted intruders, doesn’t want them recruiting there, and gave the pinkos a free parking pass and noise permit. Toledo doesn’t want urban warfare exercises conducted in the city.

I’ve never heard of the Marines conducting urban warfare exercises in real cities before. Is this a first?


8 posted on 02/09/2008 11:11:39 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: the invisib1e hand
I'm sure this sight will soothe their troubled minds...


9 posted on 02/09/2008 11:12:02 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one recipe at a time http://www.youtube.com/Tamar1973)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Toledo doesn’t want urban warfare exercises conducted in the city.”

Actually, the mayor offered the Marines two unpopulated sites.

Toledo has not rejected the U.S. Marines.


10 posted on 02/09/2008 11:19:03 PM PST by devere
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To: Merlinator
Carty Finkbeiner has ALWAYS been an a-hole. He was saying and doing stupid stuff that put him in the news 25 years ago.

I didn't know he was still around

11 posted on 02/09/2008 11:19:37 PM PST by Slump Tester (-What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“I’ve never heard of the Marines conducting urban warfare exercises in real cities before. Is this a first?”

There are certainly better experts on this subject than I, but I do know the answer is no, marines have conducted urban warfare exercises in real cities before.

If they do it in an area where there are going to be civilians around they give plenty of advance warning, and get permission of the local authorities, as they thought they had in this case.

12 posted on 02/09/2008 11:28:09 PM PST by Moral Hazard (John McCain is the worst Republican candidate, except for the other two)
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“If they do it in an area where there are going to be civilians around they give plenty of advance warning”

How do you warn everyone possible about the harmless meaning of urban gunfire? It seems to me like an unnecessarily risky practice if a more controlled setting is available.


13 posted on 02/09/2008 11:36:27 PM PST by devere
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To: devere

This is not surprising. The ONLY good thing to come out of Toledo was the greatest jazz pianist that ever lived, Art Tatum...


14 posted on 02/09/2008 11:38:02 PM PST by levotb
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To: devere

This is not as bad as what Berzerkley did, but it seems to be part of the trend of local officials thumbing their noses at the military.
The public could have been made aware of the training. I work at an airport and often first responders and fire fighters do practice drills on planes that are retired. Airline employees are recruited to be “victims” etc... This could be a horrifying sight to passengers, but everyone including inbound planes are given the heads up as to what is happening when they see the smoke and “wreckage”. There’s no reason that this could not have been done in Toledo. I would think it would be more assuring than frightening to see how well trained our military are. As far as offering them other facilities the Marines said they were not aware of such an offer. I’d believe them before I would believe the loony tunes mayor. I think the mayor was just trying to cover his own butt when he said that. He gets no pass from me on this.


15 posted on 02/09/2008 11:38:55 PM PST by Merlinator (Iraq will be a success story...that is the real "inconvenient truth" for the dems in 2008)
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To: devere

I highly doubt that they would be using live ammunition.


16 posted on 02/09/2008 11:42:09 PM PST by Merlinator (Iraq will be a success story...that is the real "inconvenient truth" for the dems in 2008)
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To: Slump Tester

I looked at his web page. He was doing stupid things like suggesting that Toledo move deaf people to housing around the airport. You can see some more of his liberal goofiness here http://www.politicalwhore.com/?cat=11


17 posted on 02/09/2008 11:52:47 PM PST by Merlinator (Iraq will be a success story...that is the real "inconvenient truth" for the dems in 2008)
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To: Anita1
I hope they make a law that if the cities don’t want the soldiers in THEIR city - They WILL lose federal funds!

And we let that city be taken over by radical muslims. After a few mayors get beheaded, the rest will fall in love with the devil dogs.

18 posted on 02/10/2008 12:19:58 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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Because they would FRIGHTEN PEOPLE?

Are you f***ing kidding me?

Seeing Marines in action makes me feel safe and confident about our country’s future, not frightened.


19 posted on 02/10/2008 1:18:50 AM PST by Zeon Cowboy (Pardon Ramos and Compean NOW! // Worst. Election. Ever.)
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like suggesting that Toledo move deaf people to housing around the airport

Thanks, I’m still laughing.


20 posted on 02/10/2008 2:37:39 AM PST by Misschuck
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