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To: GVNR

No......I would not fight a humanitarian mission. I believe in projecting our power punitively only. Rebuilding only after the war is over. Iraq has never been and never will be a productive, resourceful, industrious nation and that is because of Islam. Our past enemies fought in uniform for a standing army and those nations had they won the war, would not have went on to become self-destructive.

Imagine if half the people in the U.S belonged to gangs. How brutal would our central govt have to be to put them down? Pretty damn brutal! And since we will not ever be, a central govt in Iraq needs to fight the counter-insurgencies. I have no problem with our troops assisting them and getting them trained and on their feet but this is insane that we are still there after almost 6 years. For the love of God, we defeated two superpowers in WWll in less time. Liberalism has infected Republicans too and at the highest level of our govt to include our foreign policy makers and it’s going to get a lot of us killed. So all of you so concerned about being attacked again, better wake up to the damage liberalism is doing. It has conditioned our society for so long that we now think Pres. Bush and McCain are strong when it comes to our natl security strategy. Lord help us.


385 posted on 02/07/2008 8:30:37 PM PST by LaurenD
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To: LaurenD
we defeated two superpowers in WWll in less time.

In all fairness, you can't compare Iraq to WWII. They had standing armies that could be defeated. Iraq has jihadists that enter the country from other countries. And they get support from countries that we AREN'T fighting. We defeated Iraqs army easily. It's the foreign terrorists, Al Qaeda, Iran etc that are keeping us fighting. We aren't fighting a nations standing army.

396 posted on 02/07/2008 8:42:49 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Make yourself sheep, and the wolves will eat you" Benjamin Franklin)
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To: LaurenD

“Imagine if half the people in the U.S belonged to gangs”

They already have about half the people in the Dem controlled inner-cities belonging to gangs and/or committing crimes.

Putting aside the loss of all the good R candidates, we have no choice. Its either McNasty/McNuts or we just “give” the Presidency to ObamamLama or the Hildabeast.

McNasty at-least offers “some” hope. With either of the two Dems there is no hope at all. By the time the Dems finished their four years we’d have liberal judges having been appointed to the Supreme Court and we’d have problems as long as they were there since they can’t be voted-out.

I’m just as unhappy as all of you are. “My guy” was Duncan Hunter, unfortunately he’s long since dropped out. After him I was wishing for Fred Thompson -unfortunately he dropped-out too, then when it got down to McCain, Huckabee, and Romney, I was hoping for Romney...My LAST choice all along was McCain. I don’t have any respect, AT ALL, for him, HOWEVER he’s what we’re stuck with.

That leaves each of us these choices to make: Do we “bite-the-bullet” and vote for him, do we vote for everyone BUT President, or do we vote third-party, wasting our votes on a condidate that has NO CHANCE of winning, or lastly, do we “stay-home”?

Third party doesn’t help us - - Staying home doesn’t help us, voting, but NOT for President doesn’t help us. - - Likely, if we stay home, vote for all but President, or vote third party we’ve given the Presidency to the Dems.

If anyone thinks that the Dems won’t screw-up the country they’ve got another think coming.
They’ll be government waste on a scale that pales with what we have now, there’ll be National-Health-Care, there’ll be liberal policies enacted that’ll “knock your eyes out”, including the expansion of welfare (laziness) programs, amnesty for illegal aliens etc etc.
By the time their four years are up they will have done so much damage and enacted so many Liberal policies that it’ll take YEARS to straighten-it-out, and some of them might never be able to be straightened out/eliminated.

I’m ALREADY HOLDING MY NOSE, and have been since Mitt dropped out, B U T, I refuse to give MY vote to the Dems, in any way, including NOT voting for, AT LEAST “someone” who MAYBE-MIGHT-HOPEFULLY BE “SOMEWHAT” LESS LIBERAL THAN THE DEMS WOULD SURELY BE.

(This post is not meant to be specifically to YOU, rather it’s a call for keeping cool-headed regarding the lousy pick we have, and the hope that those who ignore our candidate realize that the stakes are too high to abandon the Party and allow the Dems to sit in the Oval Office.)


638 posted on 02/08/2008 7:11:29 PM PST by GVNR (We have a choice of no choice, no choice, and no choice.)
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