My gosh it's not so bad!
anybody got any salsa ?
Posted on 02/07/2008 6:29:17 PM PST by Checkers
Are there any Freepers who support John McCain?
If you support Mr. McCain, can you make the case for your man?
Can you make the case without bringing up the War?
Can you make the case without bringing up Judges?
Can you make the case without using any ACU ratings? (Those don't impress anybody.)
Can you make the case without insults or telling people to "calm down"?
Can you make the case without the type of lying and dishonesty we've come to expect from John McCain and his special friend Mike Huckabee?
Can you make the case without trashing Barack Obama?
Can you make the case without using Hillary Rodham Clinton as some kind of boogyman or boogyperson?
Can you?
The ball is in your court.
I find myself defending McCAin, which is not and was not my purpose BUT do you really mean to tell me you could NOT make as long and terrible a list against HITLERY or Obama?
Nor achieving popularity on FR rather than trying to talk some sense.
Come now. Attack the enemy at last equally. If you are going to use a one sided method, you are venting your emotion not your mind.
Whether you like or don’t like McCain has NOTHING to do with anything as far as siding with him or Hitlery or Obama is concerned - which is teh only ALTERNATIVE, INCLUDING not voting.
cheers,
I'm against torture, if the term is use to refer to actions that cause permanent injuries or other harm. On the other hand, from what I understand, waterboarding is part of the training for some U.S. personnel. To my mind, that makes it different from branding, amputation, bone-breaking, and other such methods.
Read it.
And we'll still lose in a landslide, time to make a stand now and send the RNC a message, we're pi$$ed and we're not taking it anymore.
It would also be easier for me to swim with the sharks in the ocean if somebody threw a chainmail suit out to me to put on so the sharks wouldn't make a meal out of me.
I think everybody should vote the way they feel they have to vote. You're obviously not voting for McCain. Fine. I'd just rather we not have to EVER fight Hillary because she's the one in the Whitehouse.
Fars, a nod to you since you started the discussion.
The line about McCain’s use of Reagan’s memory got me thinking.
Just which other Republican’s salad days do you want McCain to harken back to?
If I’m going to stand before an audience and speak of my political career and its founding principles, and I’m a man of McCain’s stature, I sure as hell would not drop George W. Bush’s name or his father’s as a benchmark. Tell me what ground-shaking events both Bush presidents caused that woke up the call to conservatism? No man speaking as a Republican candidate is going to use the Bush name as a conservative reference.
THE name during my lifetime has always been Reagan, and it always will be. It is natural that EVERY Republican or Conservative candidate from here until the end of my lifetime will recall where they were on the day that Reagan gave the “Shining City on a Hill” speech... it was historical. And McCain’s use of it is not shameful, it is politics 101. If you don’t like it, fine. But, don’t gnash your teeth with frustration wondering why in God’s name he did it. He did it because HE COULD. He was there, he heard the speech, and he used the reference. Fine. Done and over with.
Now, if you want to complain about other points regarding McCain have at it, but the Reagan/McCain song and dance was so obvious, that you should have seen it coming, long ago.
My case is plain and simple. McCain wasn’t my first choice. However, there is no way that I can sit back and allow the presidency to be handed to one of the biggest socialists in American history (Hillary) or one of the most liberal Democrats in American history (Obama). There is no other choice, because McCain has the GOP nomination clinched.
What a whitewashed you did on McLiar.
[Neither Democrat will] recognize and seriously address the threat posed by an Iran with nuclear ambitions to our ally, Israel, and the region. I intend to make unmistakably clear to Iran we will not permit a government that espouses the destruction of the State of Israel as its fondest wish and pledges undying enmity to the United States to possess the weapons to advance their malevolent ambitions.
President Bush has said things to the exact same effect and what has he done about Iran? He hasn’t even done things to them for sending jihadists and weapon into Iraq to kill our troops with.
It’s easy to say and promise things in broad terms. The candidates NEVER give specific ideas about how they would achieve these promises. That way, they can’t be called a liar latter.
Support or tolerate?
I wouldn't expect McCain to ever be an advocate for a tax increase. I don't believe he has ever advocated a tax increase.
He's shoot the jihadis. Yeah, that's the ticket...he'd shoot the jihadis.
All fun aside, I DO believe the war against the jihadis is the great, existential struggle of our time. If a DIM wins office, we're likely to lose it.
I think McCain will win it.
My gosh it's not so bad!
anybody got any salsa ?
I would like to see you make such a list of Obama’s or Hillary’s legislative accomplishments and then we will compare them. You are free to include bills that they authored but have not become law since I did.
I am pretty depressed about the whole affair, but I’m 80% likely to hold my nose and vote for McCain. It is not, however, a “done deal”. There’s gonna have to be a lot of conservative ass-kissing over the next 9-months. If not, then I’ll simply not vote.
Sure. A democratic country which does not secure its borders will not be able to sustain a higher standard of living than any other democratic countries from which people can escape, especially if the poverty of those other countries is a result of inept and/or corrupt governments. Instead, it will get swamped with people from those other countries until enough those people vote to ensure that the government of their new home becomes just as inept/corrupt as the one they left.
Rule of Thumb: Very, very, very few people vote for a ticket based on the VEEP candidate.
However, with McCain being 71 years old............
That sure is a ringing endorsement!
LOL!
How funny, an illiterate illegal alien lover telling me how to speak English. Why don't you go live in Mexico muledickskinner, I'm sure your little name there will be appreciated at the donkey show.
Well said!!
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