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To: Digital Sniper; NoGrayZone

If I recall correctly, the Nader democrats had plenty of principles...and we know what happened to them.

Again, it’s politics. If you want to win, then you go with the guy who can win...if you would rather lose by standing firmly on principles, well, that’s another way to go. However, the object of the exercise is to win.


30 posted on 02/07/2008 3:25:02 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

democrats dont have principles, your next point?


36 posted on 02/07/2008 3:28:43 PM PST by NoGrayZone (I believe we are witnessing the birth of the new Conservative Party....Grab a cigar!)
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To: durasell

if you would rather lose by standing firmly on principles, well, that’s another way to go. However, the object of the exercise is to win.

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Guess I don’t know what I would have done in the era of Hitler, Stalin or Saddam.

IMHO, if you don’t have passion for your principles you have affectively given your freedom to the “winners”.


38 posted on 02/07/2008 3:30:55 PM PST by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: durasell

“Again, it’s politics. If you want to win, then you go with the guy who can win...if you would rather lose by standing firmly on principles, well, that’s another way to go. However, the object of the exercise is to win.”

Not according to Reagan.

LLS


44 posted on 02/07/2008 3:34:00 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("There is no conservative alternative in the race. It's just that simple." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: All

I’m so glad Rush said all this. I’m tired of conservatives getting blamed for all the ills that have befallen the Republican party. We’re not the ones in Washington. These people who are now talking down to us are supposed to be representing our views—not the other way around!!! Instead, we’re yet again being belittled.

And to all of the do-gooder Freepers who have now started ridiculing those of us who won’t vote for McCain—it’s *OUR* vote, not yours, thank you.


54 posted on 02/07/2008 3:42:54 PM PST by VegasBaby (No way to McStain)
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To: durasell
Again, it’s politics. If you want to win, then you go with the guy who can win...if you would rather lose by standing firmly on principles, well, that’s another way to go. However, the object of the exercise is to win.

For you, maybe. The object for me is to preserve my country. This whole time we've been "winning", we've moved further and further to the left. All we are winning is a slow down.

WE'RE giving the country incrementalism all the while we talk about frogs in pots. Turn the heat way up. I'm willing to live with what happens.

116 posted on 02/07/2008 4:33:23 PM PST by Dianna
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To: durasell
If you want to win, then you go with the guy who can win...if you would rather lose by standing firmly on principles, well, that’s another way to go. However, the object of the exercise is to win.

That sounds very much like "the end justifies the means". I don't buy it.

120 posted on 02/07/2008 4:37:48 PM PST by FrogMom
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To: durasell
“However, the object of the exercise is to win.”

Nooooo...that is the object of some members of the Republican party. The point of the article and of Rush’s diatribes is that there are two components of both parties: the die-hard base who will not sell themselves out for a ‘win,’ and those who will do what is necessary to ‘win.’

Rush’s point, and I agree with him, is that the latter have not been ‘winning’ anything. The Republican party is no longer drifting but actively swimming to the left. Electing a RINO who is smiling from an outboard motorboat is not a ‘win’ for those of us who are conservatives first, Republicans second, though it would be a win for those who are Republicans first and conservatives second.

156 posted on 02/07/2008 6:15:51 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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