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Big-Tent GOP's Failure To Uphold Conservatism Caused This Mess (Rush Tongues Lashes RINOs)
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 2/07/2008 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/07/2008 3:06:02 PM PST by goldstategop

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To: goldstategop
I don’t recall Ronald Reagan using, or implying, the term “RHINO.”

And he did not talk tripe - and print it as some great proclamation as from a king.

Reagan was not exclusionary.

He did not think that, in vanity of vanity, he was somehow granted sacred power to look into the hearts and minds of the Lord’s creatures - and for him, Reagan, to declare them somehow unfit because he, Reagan, somehow so declared.

Reagan had a special quality that many, many people - including those on this site and off it - have sadly forgotten.

The guiding premise of Ronald Reagan was: love for his fellow human. Reagan was, himself, loved but for one reason: he loved all he met and he surely wanted freedom and liberty for everyone.

Reagan never put people down. And he surely never slandered them.

181 posted on 02/07/2008 9:03:58 PM PST by mtntop3
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To: chasio649

“Hell...he should have been saying this YEARS ago....that said...this is the finest opening dialogue on Rush’s show that i have heard in years....i have bashed Rush many times on FR but if this is his marker or line in the sand...then by golly i’m with him..”

Worth repeating.


182 posted on 02/07/2008 9:04:09 PM PST by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: BobS

So, basically taxes, illegal immigration and energy independence.


183 posted on 02/07/2008 9:06:05 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: JasonC

Well-said.


184 posted on 02/07/2008 9:06:22 PM PST by mtntop3
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To: exit82

“By applying our threat not to vote in droves for McCrazy, we may yet effect the outcome of this nomination. I’m not going to fold now, and sing Kumbaya, so the Republican leadership can feel we conservatives won’t leave the plantation.”

That’s the best point I’ve seen made all week. We did get our judges by applying the same pressure.


185 posted on 02/07/2008 9:21:40 PM PST by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: durasell
"It leaves me wondering what issues the squishies (for lack of a better word) would respond to in a conservative candidate?"

Reagan got an overwhelming response from them. I might guess that they responded to his honesty and to economic issues (Lower Taxes, less government, Reaganomics) as well as his notion of America leading the world with innovation and success because of freedom... (I imagine there was more...)
186 posted on 02/07/2008 9:28:52 PM PST by EasySt (Life is precious. Live it well...)
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To: ScreamingFist

“McCain will never be president, that is cold hard reality.”

It catches in my throat too. I can’t see a president McCain, but can’t abide a President Hillary.


187 posted on 02/07/2008 9:30:40 PM PST by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: EasySt

Now we have a situation where conservatives have turned against the RNC and are limus-testing other conservative voters. They want a conservative movement made up of only the purest of heart with the most steadfast of principles...a tiny slice of the electorate.


188 posted on 02/07/2008 9:35:47 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: goldstategop
...of course; Sinister (frm. beloved Media Darliiiiing :) Juan "Keating Five" McCranky, (shall) richly deserve everything the Liberals throw @ him....Where are your Independent/DemoRAT Voters/Fawning Media clowns now, Juan?....*cue Elvis music* "Are you lonesome tonight...."*/cue Elvis music*
...what a fitting end to his "maverick" political career.

189 posted on 02/07/2008 10:15:09 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, don't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: durasell
"Now we have a situation where conservatives have turned against the RNC and are limus-testing other conservative voters. They want a conservative movement made up of only the purest of heart with the most steadfast of principles...a tiny slice of the electorate."

I don't believe that. Conservatives didn't turn from the RNC. Conservatives are not in the habit of doing a lot of turning. The RNC has done the turning.

Conservatives vote their conservative principles. It's who they are. It's what they have always done. They do so with with as much pragmatism and compromise as they can individually live with, but they are "decided" voters. They are not very malleable. The GOP can move towards them or away from them. It can use their prov-en ideas, or not, but conservatives can't move as much as the GOP. It's not in the nature of who they are. If they could, they wouldn't be conservatives. They know they are not the majority, but they believe they support prov-en policies and that they have a duty continue to do so.

I suspect many conservatives will not be able to make themselves vote for McCain. I might, but I really, REALLY don't want to. He may attract enough anti Socialist votes (which is what mine would be, if I can make myself do it...) to defeat Hillary and Obama anyway, we'll see.

I fear too much of the squishy middle will look at McCain and think "Creepy, Scary, establishment", look at Hillary and think "Scary, Creepy establishment" and look at Obama, and think "well, maybe they won't call us racist any more..."
190 posted on 02/07/2008 10:46:24 PM PST by EasySt (Life is precious. Live it well...)
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To: goldstategop

Rush has some blame coming his way as well. If he had bothered to lift a finger to help Hunter, the campaign could have gathered momentum. Lots of conservatives wussed out this time around.


191 posted on 02/07/2008 10:49:53 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: Pelham

Don’t you know it. Bud, you and I are on the same page.

Folks here would not be honest about Bush. If I can admit he did some things that were good, they should reciprocate and admit things he did that were terrible.

What happened over the last eight years was a full court defense of all things Bush. If you opened your mouth to lament something he shouldn’t have done, you were a Bush hater.

That is not healthy for the political environment, if what he was doing was wrong.

RINOdom was entrenched. It was the golden standard. And now here we are and we have the king of the RINO world, and he is now in the process of being knighted, so he can receive the full court press defense for the next four or eight years.

While this takes place, at least twelve years go by with no real conservatism being taught or adhered to.

This means that a young kid eight years of age, would be twenty by the time he would have the possibility of seeing a truly conservative president.

With Bush the elder, two terms of Clinton and now two terms of Bush, it has been 20 years since Reagan, and now we’re set up for another four of McCain or goldie-locks.

That eight year old kid when Reagan left office will be 28 years old by the time he may, just may see a conservative president.

The problem is, why would he want one? He’s never heard what conservatism is. He’s never seen a president rule from the conservative play book.

All this kid has seen is conservatives refered to as hard core right wing conservatives, or Fudamentalist Conservative Christians.

The kid is nearly thirty years old, hasn’t a clue that conservatism isn’t some beast of nature, and we wonder why conservatism doesn’t prevail.

And then folks wonder what the problem with installing another RINO even worse that the last.

With conservative proponents such as these, who needs the left to destroy us? We’re doing a bang up job for them.

They couldn’t pay someone to do a better job of it.


192 posted on 02/07/2008 10:55:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: EasySt

I agree with much of what you say. However, I think it’s gonna be Cinton and not Obama, depending on how the economy goes.

And don’t forget, the squishies are being squeezed financially.


193 posted on 02/07/2008 10:56:41 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: EasySt

For the record, your analysis is terrific. Hats off to you!


194 posted on 02/07/2008 10:57:27 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: JasonC
Here's a little "reason" for ya, Jason....

What conservative appointments will Mclame make to the USSC that will shape America's future for a generation?

What amount of amnesty will assure the collapse of Social Security benefits to all those who have funded the Ponzi scheme over the years?

What amount of caving-in to the Liberal agenda will McLame continue to further socialize America to a country of equally-poor elimination of the Middle Class?

Invoking Reagan does not negate the fact that McLame has no conservative values no matter how many times you use it. Unfortunately, there will never be another Reagan so long as conservative, traditional values, secure borders folks go along with the program, and settle for whatever candidate they're assigned to vote for....

195 posted on 02/08/2008 2:12:55 AM PST by traditional1
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To: EasySt
"we're left with a choice between a republican who doesn't want us to know he's a Democrat, and a Democrat who doesn't want us to know s(he)'s a Socialist."

Well said...

I believe the modern, politically-correct terms we're bombarded with are moderate, and progressive, as the general public has difficulty seeing through the spoon-feeding.....

196 posted on 02/08/2008 2:30:48 AM PST by traditional1
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To: TexasCajun

John McCain Gets Soros Cash - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1360852/posts



197 posted on 02/08/2008 2:35:37 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Joan Kerrey
the Republican Party’s RINO establishment is set to blame the conservative base for the inevitable debacle. ++++++++++++++++++++ If all the conservatives stay home and McCain loses by inches who else is there to blame?

John McCain himself.

What has John McCain done to reach out to the conservative base of the Republican Party?

Trying to persuade conservative voters with statements that he is a "conservative in the mould of Reagan, come across as disingenuous.

198 posted on 02/08/2008 5:59:13 AM PST by TennTuxedo
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To: durasell
"Now we have a situation where conservatives have turned against the RNC and are limus-testing other conservative voters."

Wrong. Conservatives have remained the same. The GOP establishment has been running open-looped quite flagrantly recently concerning principles. So of course they will nominate a meandering liberal. That's their default choice.

THEY have to straighten up or clean up and pick up the pieces. Not conservatives. What happens in November is in their own hands exclusively. There is time to fix things. Or there will be blood without conservatives anywhere near the scene.

199 posted on 02/08/2008 7:21:19 AM PST by BobS
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To: BobS

Nothing is going to change. Conservatives have to decide whether a piece of something is better than nothing. With McCain conservatives get a some of their agenda in play. With a democratic president, they get almost none of their agenda in play.

That’s the choice. It ain’t pretty, but it is what it is.


200 posted on 02/09/2008 3:53:04 AM PST by durasell (!)
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