Posted on 02/02/2008 1:52:27 AM PST by Fred Nerks
New evidence supports premise that Earth produces endless supply
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A study published in Science Magazine today presents new evidence supporting the abiotic theory for the origin of oil, which asserts oil is a natural product the Earth generates constantly rather than a "fossil fuel" derived from decaying ancient forests and dead dinosaurs.
The lead scientist on the study – Giora Proskurowski of the School of Oceanography at the University of Washington in Seattle – says the hydrogen-rich fluids venting at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean in the Lost City Hydrothermal Field were produced by the abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons in the mantle of the earth.
The abiotic theory of the origin of oil directly challenges the conventional scientific theory that hydrocarbons are organic in nature, created by the deterioration of biological material deposited millions of years ago in sedimentary rock and converted to hydrocarbons under intense heat and pressure.
While organic theorists have posited that the material required to produce hydrocarbons in sedimentary rock came from dinosaurs and ancient forests, more recent argument have suggested living organisms as small as plankton may have been the origin...
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
if adibatic oil theory is correct, an oil well is an oil COLLECTOR, rather than an oil DEPOSIT.
Oil does not come from dead dinos. It mainly comes from plant material that has been buried by sediment, and more deeply buried as time went by, until after geologic time it has gotten to where it was subjected to extreme heat and pressure deep underground
Interesting post. Thanks.
:) Good one!
The dead dinos thing was purely poetic license. The plant material part, on the other hand, it’s 20th century thinking.
The majority of Americans have embraced the socialist idea that we should live under strict government-mandated restrictions and the only issue is the "fair" redistribution of less and less wealth. Many people accept the zero-sum premise and will eagerly vote for any politician who promises to make it hard for anyone else to get one dollar more than what the voter has. This class warfare will someday erupt into real war. People are so illiterate that if they were told that capitalism causes sunspots, many would believe that.
>>You have a point, considering the only recent development of the Mexican, Leaf-Blower Brigades!<<
Ok, but lets keep that just between us or those guys in Washington will be claiming the illegals are just making the leaves into oil that Americans won’t make. :)
The sheer quantity of crude and the size of the oil fields should be enough to disabuse anyone that it was created by ancient life forms that were concentrated together and all died and decomposed together.
The stuff is a formative part of the earth in the same vein as rock.
>>The sheer quantity of crude and the size of the oil fields should be enough to disabuse anyone that it was created by ancient life forms that were concentrated together and all died and decomposed together.
The stuff is a formative part of the earth in the same vein as rock.<<
The Paleozoic and Mosozoic eras when most of the shale deposits originated were almost 500,000,000 years. That’s a heck of lot of plant matter.
You are hearing what the Leftists who control the media in the US want you to hear. There is a very strong community of real scientists who are not politicized, and they are as many if not greater in number than the politico-scientists.
An example of this is that of global warming. This socio-political idea was allowed to germinate and grow because few scientists thought that it was little more than a feel-good pet project of the liberals. America is very tolerant of these ideas. When it gained enough strength to affect legislation, however, the forces of real scientists started arguing back. At present there is a much stronger scientific argument against manmade global warming than for it — so much so that for the ecochondriacs and ecocommies it has now moved out of the realm of scientific debate and become little more than a theological debate with the ‘believers’ (pseudo-scientists) calling the non-beleivers (scientists) ‘heretics.’
>>Keep in mind that you only hear what is broadcast the loudest. The citizens of most European countries don’t hate Americans and many support the WOT but all we hear about is how they hate America and oppose us. That is largely because we only hear what the metropolitan areas who are anti-America want us to hear.<<
And even the Europeans and (from Democratic countries) Asians I meet can almost always separate a difference in policy from the fundamental question of whether we should continue to be friends and allies.... of course it would help if they would show it a bit more.
It had been accepted by scientists that the great gorges of the American West were created by rivers cutting their way through the strata for millennia. But now there is strong evidence that at least some of those gorges were cut almost instantly by massive flash floods when glaciers holding back seas of water broke. All this to say, when you are standing at your place on the railroad tracks and looking down the tracks, it is very difficult to estimate distance, the closeness of objects, the densities and clusters of objects. I find it highly improbably that so much plant life would have died and decomposed in such vast quantities and all in the perfect conditions for decomposition (all around the globe) that would so uniformly result in so much of the sludge that we so cherish.
It’s just the same old oil they were trying to extract when it was first drilled. The methods of perforating and fracturing in the oil bearing zones has allot to do with this because they determine the rate of flow and the volume of flow. With todays equipment it’s very easy to pump a well off ( Pulling the fluid out faster than it can flow back in ). When you have several wells, such as on my place you can basically pump down a very wide area. Oil dosen’t sit down there in little pools, it’s constantly oozing and weeping. Eventually enough oil will eventually make it back to the well bore and surrounding area’s and make it feasible to go back to pumping again. We’ve recently put 11 wells back on line, that had been shut down for more than 10 years. They’re not as strong as when first drilled but we have been surprised at the production rates. We’re now in the process of turning several of out older wells into injection wells (pumping the saltwater recovered from other wells back into the same zones your producing from) This is done in an effort to push oil from surrounding area’s back towards our producing wells. Even after extracting all we can with these methods and have once again abandons the wells, they in time will eventually seep and ooze their way back to a recoverable point.
Sigh.
Once again I cannot fathom how someone can write a book about a subject they don't have the foggiest understanding of.
NOBODY CLAIMS OR HAS EVER CLAIMED OIL COMES FROM DECAYING ANCIENT FORESTS AND DEAD DINOSAURS.
Oil comes from dead microscopic plankton in shallow seas, primarily during oceanic anoxic events in the Jurassic and Cretaceous periods where it would die and not decay because there wasn't enough oxygen and no life in the seafloor sediment.
All the oilfields on earth have been found under the above assumptions, and all the oil on earth is consistent in composition in having been derived from plankton.
“I’m an Aussie. What happened? The US was once in the forefront of everything...now, anything different or new is automatically derided and discarded out of hand”
Uh, try reading scientific journals once in a while, then get back to me on that. If you believe the U.S. dismisses anything new or different out of hand and isn’t still at the forefront if not in the lead in many high-knowledge and high-tech sectors based on press articles and threads on internet forums, I can’t help you.
There's FAR more coal in the world than oil.
You can look at bituminous coal microscopically and actually see the plants that formed it.
There are no Corsi-esque imbeciles running around writing about "all coal is abiotic" - absolutely everyone accepts coal is from dead terrestrial plant matter.
Now, you can have abiotic carbon - heck, comets have carbon. Doesn't mean all the coal in the world didn't come from ancient dead plants.
The biomass of plankton is ENORMOUS - the oceans cover 75% of the earth, and the quantity of plankton is beyond belief. It's far more by weight than all the terrestrial plants and trees in the world.
The problem with oil is it will get cooked away if it's buried too deeply and too hot, or it will rise to the surface if there isn't a good cap rock system - which is why there isn't a lot more oil than there is.
Bump for later reading
We are being controlled by bad science. Congress sits on their fat butts and ignores any new information. The future will wonder way we allowed this government to lead us.
Quite a bit of FR is infatuated with bad science based on fantasy, it seems.
Exactly, there is a lot of money to be made using the “peak oil” scare tactic.
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