Reagan Library Republican Presidential Debate: January 30, 2008 (Official Thread)

I agree. Those who say conservatism is dead, GOP will go back to Rockefeller’s etc.......they really need to learn history.

Politics evolves. It does not stay stagnant.

Are there times when conservatives lose? YES. Times change. People undergo change. That is life.

But, the pendulum will swing back in our favor at some point.

People are pissed off right now, so they react against the party they perceive as responsible. They will see the Dems in power and realize we aren’t so bad after all.

The one thing that really will upset me, as I am SURE this will happen.....we will have multiple SCOTUS appointments under the next president.

I really hope a Republican........a decent one......wins. If not, the great conservative majority that is within sight will be taken from us.

The Supreme Court is why we must vote GOP.

But, if we lose.....things will be fine, at least once people come to their senses.

What will upset me the most would be the loss of a potential conservative court, however.

You got that right. No one candidate is a perfect fit for all.

Ping to post #2440

About Huck’s son:

Do you hold it against Adam that Cain killed Abel?

Of course, Adam didn’t try to cover it up.

Romney wins and there will be dead silence about his performance. The news coverage will be all about McCain’s incredible momentum and impressive endorsements, with some clips of him my-friending and beaming.

Was not sure you were old enough...

to remember Ike from your high school history classes last year!

I can’t get past that lump on the side of his face. Does he chew tobacco?

I aint voting for no lump. No way.

Regards

Maybe she subscribes to her husbands philosophy that just because someone only agrees some of the time doesn’t make them their enemy.

As I said. Nancy Reagan is no naif who needs staff to protect her. She is 90 but still of sound mind.

If not for Arnold we would have a Democrat Governor of California. I suppose some might prefer that, but not I.

“I’d rather get 80% of what I want than to go over the cliff with my flag flying.”

Ronald Reagan

(although I admit Arnold gave a lot less than 80%; it was better than what we would have gotten.)

McCain will win easily. Its not the popular vote. Its the electoral vote. There is NO way Hillary can turn a red state blue. Conversely, McCain is palatable to mod Dems and will take all the purple states, and might even be able to squeak out a “blue” state.

The far right might hate McCain but the left does not. However, half of the left and ALL of the right HATE Hillary.

PS. I am not a McCain supporter, but just trying to be intellectually honest.

Neither are my guys, my guys are no longer running sadly, but the ideas brought up by Huckabee and Paul should be listened to. We are not Democrats. We are not liberals. The Arena of Ideas is where we are at our strongest. Even in this debate, we discussed more matters of substance than the Democrats would everdream of debating about.

Let ‘em stay and debate, such discussions ca only serve to make Republicans stronger in the future.

You are right..we do need the arena of ideas. And the dems are incapable of that. But it seems that at some point, at least Paul with zero delegates should be excluded. Huckabee made some decent comments but his whining about being excluded was annoying. And a little funny.

I agree...and snakes and frogs are better ...

Well, your virtue is rare around these parts when it comes to some of the other Republicans.

Sir, the average person would likely be dead from multiple trauma shock with injuries like he sustained.

Never said his ill health is an asset, nor implied that...was just adding information to help people understand why he may limp...

Besides, it is the ideas that make the man, not an item of health.

March 01, 2007, 5:00 a.m.

Right on McCain
John McCainÂ’s conservative record is excellent.

By Senator Jon Kyl

I have had the distinct pleasure of serving with Senator John McCain for the last 12 years in the U.S. Senate. Yet just as important to me as our shared years of service is our common respect for the conservative principles that have guided us in representing our state. That is why the characterization of John McCain as something other than a common-sense conservative is disturbing to me. Senator McCain’s detractors overlook his actual voting record of supporting conservative values.

During my time in the Senate with John McCain, we have cast the same vote nearly nine times out of ten. Whether in our efforts against inefficiency and waste in the federal budget, confronting the threat we face from international terrorism, protecting the sanctity of human life, or some other issue, Senator McCain has been loyal to, and a leader for, conservative beliefs.

Senator McCain is well known for his long history of protecting the interests of the American taxpayer. He is without question the best choice for voters opposed to wasteful Washington spending and bloated budgets.

Last year, Senator McCain introduced the Pork-Barrel Reduction Act, a bill focused on transparency and fiscal restraint. In 2005, Senator McCain and I were two of the four senators to vote against the pork-laden highway bill. During the 109^th Congress, Citizens Against Government Waste gave McCain a 91 percent rating, and Pork Busters, a collaboration of fiscal-watchdog groups, labeled him as an “Anti-Pork Hero” in 2006.

Conservatives should be outraged about the wasteful spending in Washington, and they should be exacting in their demand for a culture of fiscal restraint. John McCain meets this demand.

On the ever-important issue of life, Senator McCain has a record of voting for pro-life legislation: He has voted for bans on partial birth abortion; he has supported the “Unborn Victims of Violence Act” and parental notification for minors; and he has voted against using federal money to distribute morning-after contraception in schools.

He has repeatedly co-sponsored the Child Custody Protection Act, which prohibits the transportation of minors across state lines in order to circumvent state laws, requiring instead the involvement of parents in abortion decisions.

What do pro-abortion groups think of Senator McCain? NARAL Pro-Choice America and Planned Parenthood have both given him zero percent, no-confidence ratings because he has stood up against them for decades. John McCain’s opposition to abortion has been consistent.

Senator McCain also strongly believes in the institution of marriage. He voted for and supported the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which banned federal recognition of gay marriage and same-sex partner benefits. Senator McCain endorsed and campaigned for an initiative to amend the Arizona constitution to define marriage as between one man and woman.

The defining issue for any candidate who seeks the presidency next year will be that person’s vision for conducting the war against terrorists and our mission in Iraq; there is no one stronger on this issue, or with more credibility, than John McCain.

His support for a safe and secure Middle East is well documented. And Senator McCain’s belief in the relationship between our eventual success in that region and our safety at home is one that I share.

Most conservatives believe in aggressive pursuit of terrorists and jihadists. But John McCain has been willing to put his political career on the line for the sake of his belief that these terrorists must be defeated. As the ranking member on the Senate Armed Services Committee, John McCain has long been an outspoken critic of the management of the war, and there is plenty to criticize on that score.

But Senator McCain has also been stronger than all others in his belief in the absolute importance of victory and in his own principled dedication to seeking peace and security over the political expediency of defeatism. Conservatives who believe deeply in the responsibility to defend our country know that no leadership trait is more vital to our next president.

More than any other reason, this is why conservatives should support John McCain. In matters of national security, he instinctively understands threats to the United States, and he knows what needs to be done about them. Even in the face of political adversity, he is unwavering in his commitment to America’s security.

— Jon Kyl is a Republican senator from Arizona.

National Review Online - http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTA2ZmRjNDNlN2YzYjI0OWM5Mzc0MmJmOGU5YTg2ODg=

I had to lay down for a nap. What did I miss? :)

What if it is Obama?

“Romney is invisible in the debates. I don’t understand these diehard Mitt supporters?”

Say What??? You can’t be serious about Mitt hiding in the debates. You must have some serious psychological disorder.

Dang, I was in high school when Ike was President.

I never asked if you cared.

I don't care.

You keep proving my point, though.

You are pointless.

The far right might hate McCain but the left does not.

So go ahead, cozy up to the left.

I am not going to.