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Thrasymachus to Socrates: From Plato's Republic
Plato: Complete Works, edited by John M. Cooper ^ | 4th century BC | Plato

Posted on 01/30/2008 2:01:16 PM PST by johniegrad

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1 posted on 01/30/2008 2:01:18 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Jim Robinson

Ping


2 posted on 01/30/2008 2:03:57 PM PST by johniegrad
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.


3 posted on 01/30/2008 2:12:21 PM PST by wideminded
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To: wideminded

Thanks. Sometimes these sort of things are not widely read on FR.


4 posted on 01/30/2008 2:13:18 PM PST by johniegrad
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It is, as Socrates argues, still always better to be just. And later in this same dialogue we learn from the legend of Er, the slain warrior who comes back to life, that the tyrants and evildoers go to hell.


5 posted on 01/30/2008 2:14:11 PM PST by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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not one of my faves - Cave Parable is about the best writing in the past 2068 years


6 posted on 01/30/2008 2:14:16 PM PST by spanalot (*)
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And, as I said from the first, justice is what is advantageous to the stronger while injustice is to one's own profit and advantage.

Which is why one should always check the premises - either stated, or unstated.

7 posted on 01/30/2008 2:15:37 PM PST by Socratic (“Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength.” - Corrie Ten Boom)
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To: Unknowing

So are our present candidates just or unjust?


8 posted on 01/30/2008 2:15:56 PM PST by johniegrad
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What about it?


9 posted on 01/30/2008 2:17:25 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: Socratic
Which is why one should always check the premises - either stated, or unstated.

Well, Thrasymachus was a Sophist.

10 posted on 01/30/2008 2:17:54 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: RightWhale

Consider it a Rorschach test.


11 posted on 01/30/2008 2:19:02 PM PST by johniegrad
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Probably both, with a preponderance of unjustness.


12 posted on 01/30/2008 2:20:57 PM PST by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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I assume that Plato has Socrates give an answer, one that Plato considered to be correct?


13 posted on 01/30/2008 2:22:18 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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Thanks for posting.

Kind of puts that old adage that “cheaters never prosper” on it’s head, eh? LOL.


14 posted on 01/30/2008 2:23:00 PM PST by khnyny (2008: A Space Odyssey/ Clintons=HAL)
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To: johniegrad

So? Where is the great Greek nation today, with such advice?


15 posted on 01/30/2008 2:23:08 PM PST by bvw
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To: johniegrad

It’s not a Rorschach test. What are your views on reversing the common understanding of commonly used terms?


16 posted on 01/30/2008 2:23:56 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

An answer from Socrates? LOL


17 posted on 01/30/2008 2:25:21 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: johniegrad
Well, Thrasymachus was a Sophist.

Tain't we ALL Magee?

18 posted on 01/30/2008 2:31:03 PM PST by Socratic (“Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength.” - Corrie Ten Boom)
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Consider it a Rorschach test.

Oh brother (rolls eyes). Humble you ain't kid.
19 posted on 01/30/2008 2:36:10 PM PST by khnyny (2008: A Space Odyssey/ Clintons=HAL)
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Consider it a Rorschach test.

Oh brother (rolls eyes). Humble you ain't kid

LOL. I didn't say that I was the one to score it. Just posted it for sh*ts and giggles.

20 posted on 01/30/2008 2:55:29 PM PST by johniegrad
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