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I don't agree with this assessment (some of the criticisms of which, he does cite), but food for thought.
1 posted on 01/30/2008 7:19:08 AM PST by ECM
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To: ECM

Sorry, no sale.

I’ll vote third party or write-in before I vote for that treacherous Left-pandering creep.


2 posted on 01/30/2008 7:21:12 AM PST by Westbrook
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To: ECM
To put it plainly, the critics of the deal are flat out wrong.

Just another wrong opinion.

3 posted on 01/30/2008 7:23:40 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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And they should thank John McCain for preserving for the Republican Party the use of the filibuster on judicial nominations that might be made by a Democratic President beginning in 2009 or later.

I suppose we should also thank him for amnesty and CFR. No thanks, not buying what they're selling.
4 posted on 01/30/2008 7:23:49 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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John McCain and the gang of fourteen did not do what they did to help America, they did it to increase their own power.

And in doing so they stabbed the President in the back and took a pee on conservatives everywhere.

The same bunch of scum tried to push through Shamnesty for illegals...remember that thinker?

If you vote for McCain it will be on your head too.

8 posted on 01/30/2008 7:25:05 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: ECM

Richard Baehr you ca go sell crazy some place else, we’re all stocked up here!


9 posted on 01/30/2008 7:25:37 AM PST by A. Morgan (VOTE McCain n' WE'LL BE UP TO OUR NECKS IN ILLEGALS!)
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To: zebrahead

The Gang of 14 criticism of McCain would actually make sense if a negative result had actually occurred. It did not. It actually succeeded in getting two Supremes and several appeals court judges onto the bench without being filibustered. People on here and on talk radio were salivating at the prospect of a showdown over judges and using the nuclear option to force the Dems’ hand. The Gang of 14 allowed us to get what we wanted and not be responsible for breaking precedent by going nuclear. Bill Frist also deserves a ton of credit. His saber-rattling with the nuclear option made the moderate Dems more willing to go against the possibility of a filibuster that Reid and Schumer wanted to use.

Being critical of McCain over the Gang of 14 is much ado about nothing, in my opinion.


10 posted on 01/30/2008 7:25:52 AM PST by zebrahead
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To: ECM

Sorry, I will never agree with his premise.


11 posted on 01/30/2008 7:26:06 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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I would have liked to see a leader in the senate that said you want to filibuster then filibuster.
You keep talking 24/7 until you bleed out from your calves if thats what it takes.

Filibustering is not tag team 20 minutes at a time. But we get JM who compromises yet again...and again...and again...siding with the dems.

Compromise is not leadership.

12 posted on 01/30/2008 7:26:37 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: ECM

“whatever”


13 posted on 01/30/2008 7:26:42 AM PST by JFC (I am now a MITTEN)
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To: holdonnow

Have at it:)


14 posted on 01/30/2008 7:27:20 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ECM

How many unfilled openings are there right now on federal courts?!


15 posted on 01/30/2008 7:27:25 AM PST by pookie18 (Of course I'm voting for the Republican nominee!)
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To: ECM

Looks like me and the Maytag repair guy will be pretty lonely on November 4 as we both sit home with nothing to do.


16 posted on 01/30/2008 7:27:26 AM PST by Obadiah
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The trouble is, next year Harry Reid and his apparatchiks will ram through majority votes on liberal activist judges blowing through filibusters set up by GOP. Make book This will take place next year in a Hillarita or Hussein kleptocracy. Won’t the GOP’s adherance to rules and form look pretty stupid?


17 posted on 01/30/2008 7:28:06 AM PST by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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I've always said there was an argument that could be made for the benefit of the Gang of 14 tactic, although I would have preferred to have gone with the Constitutional Option and cram it down the dims' throats. Hell, you'll never see the Pubbie minority use the filibuster anyway, and if they did (which they won't) the dims would just steamroll them.

As to the other of McCain's many sins, there are no excuses. He is a suck-up-to-the-media, suck-up-to-the-libs, anti-GOP, anti-Conservative charlatan on many, many counts.

19 posted on 01/30/2008 7:28:32 AM PST by San Jacinto
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"Richard Baehr , a healthcare management consultant, is the president of Richard A. Baehr & Associates.

He serves as an expert witness in healthcare litigation cases including regulatory appeals, bankruptcy proceedings, valuations and antitrust matters.

A speaker and writer on the subject of the Middle East, he has served as education director for AIPAC in Illinois and is on AIPAC’s National Executive Committee.

He works with several members of the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives on matters relating to the Middle East."


I really like "expert" witnesses.

I mean I really, really like them.

21 posted on 01/30/2008 7:28:43 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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Here comes the sell. Don’t trust your own eyes...suck it up and vote McCain...don’t waste your vote...he is too a conservative...(did I miss any??).


23 posted on 01/30/2008 7:29:40 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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Apparently Mr. Baehr thinks the democrats in control of a new Senate alongside a democrat president will leave the rules intact. It’s a rule change the dems won’t think twice about making to take a filibuster from the hands of Republicans. Dems play hardball for keeps and they know their strongest allies in government are activists liberals in the judiciary.


24 posted on 01/30/2008 7:30:06 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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Okay, so even if he isn’t to blame about the Gang of 14, that still doesn’t excuse the rather long laundry list of reasons why I’d never vote for the man. Are we really going to have to endure 10 months of apologists trying to erase 10 years of McCain’s attempts to undermine the party? That’s just sad.


25 posted on 01/30/2008 7:30:36 AM PST by VegasBaby (No way to McStain)
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Filibustering Executive appointments is a misuse of Senate rules that result in a violation of the Constitutional requirement for the Senate to Advise & Consent.

Once again, McCain stood on the side of a violation of the Constitution.

I will never vote for him. Never.


27 posted on 01/30/2008 7:31:07 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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I’ve never quite figured out what the issue was with the ‘gang of 14’. Seemed like it accomplished some good to me. So what was the problem with it?


30 posted on 01/30/2008 7:34:30 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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