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Last German WWI veteran dies at 107
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/25/08 | David Rising - ap

Posted on 01/25/2008 9:44:07 AM PST by NormsRevenge

BERLIN - It was an American, Gen. Douglas MacArthur, who famously reflected that "old soldiers never die; they just fade away."

But the phrase seems to apply better to the quiet passing of a German believed to have been the country's last World War I veteran.

Erich Kaestner died Jan. 1 in a nursing home in Cologne at the age of 107, his son told The Associated Press.

When France's second-last surviving veteran from World War I, Louis de Cazenave, died Jan. 20, the news made international headlines.

But in Germany — which lost both world wars and has had to cope with the shame of the Nazi genocide for more than six decades — there is not even an organization keeping track of the remaining veterans.

"That is the way history has developed," Kaestner's son, Peter Kaestner, said in a telephone interview. "In Germany, in this respect, these things are kept quiet — they're not a big deal."

The news did not even trickle out into the German press until this week, and the stories were more about how Germans remember than about Kaestner's death itself.

"The losers hide themselves in a state of self-pity and self-denial that they happily try to mitigate by forgetting," the daily Die Welt wrote Friday in its obituary for Kaestner.

Der Spiegel magazine noted that "the German public was within a hair's breadth of never learning of the end of an era" until someone who had read Kaestner's death notice in a newspaper figured out who he was and updated a Wikipedia entry on the Internet.

Kaestner was born in 1900, and had just graduated from high school in 1918 when he entered the army, his son said.

Following training, he was sent to the Western Front to fight in France, but was never sent to the front lines, he said.

For Kaestner, his service during the war, in which more than 2 million German soldiers were killed, was only a small part of his long life, his son said.

"He was just a soldier for a quarter to a half a year," Peter Kaestner said.

Kaestner rejoined the military in 1939 with the outbreak of the Second World War, serving as a first lieutenant in ground support for the Luftwaffe, primarily in France.

Following the end of the war in 1945, Kaestner became a judge in Hanover.

For his work as a jurist, he received Lower Saxony's Merit Cross, 1st Class. He was also honored by Germany's president for his 75-year marriage to wife, Maria, shortly before her death in 2003 at age 102.

Though Die Welt, Der Spiegel and the local Hannoversche Allgemeine Zeitung all said Kaestner was the last German veteran of World War I, it was not possible to confirm that status directly.

The Defense Ministry said the German military, the Bundeswehr, "has no information available concerning World War I veterans." The Federal Military Archive and the German War Graves Commission both said they had no records on possible other surviving soldiers from the war.

Peter Kaestner said he had known his father was believed to be the last German veteran of the war, but that his family didn't really think much about it — and were only aware of it from the letters his father had been receiving in recent years from people in the U.S. asking for autographs.

"He did not answer," Peter Kaestner said. "He didn't want to."

And so, in his nursing home, Erich Kaestner faded away.

"With the death of Erich Kaestner no more Germans can talk about firsthand experiences" in the war, Der Spiegel wrote.

"We have lost a chance — for ever."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dies; erichkaestner; german; godsgravesglyphs; obituary; veteran; ww1; wwi

An undated portrait shows Erich Kaestner. who died Jan. 1, 2008 quietly in a nursing home in Cologne at the age of 107, his son Peter Kaestner told The Associated Press. When France's second-last surviving veteran from World War I, Louis de Cazenave, died Jan. 20, the news made international headlines. But in Germany, which lost both world wars and has had to cope with the shame of the Nazi genocide for more than six decades, there is not even an organization keeping track of the remaining veterans. It was an American, Gen. Douglas MacArthur, who famously reflected that 'old soldiers never die; they just fade away.' But the phrase seems to apply better to the quiet passing of the German believed to have been the country's last World War I veteran. (AP Photo)


1 posted on 01/25/2008 9:44:08 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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Kaestner was born in 1900, and had just graduated from high school in 1918 when he entered the army, his son said.

Following training, he was sent to the Western Front to fight in France, but was never sent to the front lines, he said.

One lucky fellow.. in many ways


2 posted on 01/25/2008 9:44:51 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

IIRC, a 110 year old WWI French vet just die too.


3 posted on 01/25/2008 9:52:50 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: NormsRevenge

RIP.


4 posted on 01/25/2008 9:53:48 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Reagan Man

Yup

I think there is 1 Frenchman and 2 US troops that are still around.. amazing..

Keyword
veteran

scroll down the page a few threads

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=veteran


5 posted on 01/25/2008 9:56:53 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ya’ just had to sink the Lusitania didn’t ya’?


6 posted on 01/25/2008 10:04:51 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NormsRevenge
Interesting link. Three US WWI vets still alive.
7 posted on 01/25/2008 10:06:07 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Astonishing how long a human life can be - imagine the changes he saw in the world.


8 posted on 01/25/2008 10:07:02 AM PST by PC99
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To: Reagan Man

Three WWI vets living in the US—but one of the 3 is a Canadian.


9 posted on 01/25/2008 10:42:48 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


10 posted on 01/25/2008 10:43:41 AM PST by nutmeg ("You cross the Clintons, you end up with a horse's head in your bed." -- Charles Krauthammer 1/22/08)
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To: Reagan Man

Thanks!


11 posted on 01/25/2008 10:48:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

I can remember having a few WWI vets as patients at a VA hospital during the 80’s. That was pretty cool.


12 posted on 01/25/2008 10:50:51 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: NormsRevenge

Most people think of World War I as a black and white war with some jittery silent movies.

Here are some color pics using a very early color process mostly taken by the French.

http://www.worldwaronecolorphotos.com/

It’s surprising how color makes it all seem not so long ago.


13 posted on 01/25/2008 11:42:03 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

Thank you very much for that link.

I had no idea color pics existed from then.


14 posted on 01/25/2008 12:02:33 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: NormsRevenge
I wonder what he was doing during the second world war?
15 posted on 01/25/2008 3:54:20 PM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

Back when I was a kid I remember when the last veterans of the Civil War died. At the end the last man living was a Confederate Vweteran.


16 posted on 01/25/2008 4:18:34 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Veteran.


17 posted on 01/25/2008 4:19:10 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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To: Salman
I wonder what he was doing during the second world war?

Well, the article says that:

"Kaestner rejoined the military in 1939 with the outbreak of the Second World War, serving as a first lieutenant in ground support for the Luftwaffe, primarily in France."...

18 posted on 01/25/2008 4:23:15 PM PST by null and void (Does "I don't remember" Hillary!™ have Alzheimer's? She needs to release her medical records now!)
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Thanks NormsRevenge.

Note: this topic is from 01/25/2008.

Blast from the Past.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


19 posted on 02/18/2012 9:06:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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