Posted on 01/25/2008 5:28:47 AM PST by fweingart
We're homeschooling three sons. It can be done. I've known homeschool families with two working parents and families with single/divorced/widowed parents. If you ever need information, ask here. The homeschool parents here are very helpful.
LOL - Fair enough.
This kid is a danger to himself and others, and doesn't belong in a regular school.
You do get it. Geez, when I grew up I was a mischievous, rowdy but good, high energy kid and did not, repeat, did not, grow to become a criminal :)
You are absolutely correct. Some 5yo children are passive; others are aggressive. At five, the aggressive children need some extra discipline, that's all.
My eldest is so well-behaved and polite that other parents rave about him to me. You would never guess that, at age five, he was a handful. Hitting me, kicking and punching doors, and screaming tantrums that would last an hour was very typical behavior for him.
Reasoning with a five year old might help somewhat, but not much. Labeling him with a disorder won't help at all. Someone needs to be willing to get mean with him, and as years go by, he learns. (As a matter of fact, his behavior was so over the top that I became overly strict, and now he's too timid. So now we're looking into martial arts, just trying to find a balance.)
What disturbs me the most about this story (and others like it) is that the school and the police are taking control, and the parent is not given any control. They wouldn't even release the child to the babysitter she sent.
“Then Mom can take her little angel elsewhere.”
That’s the problem - the school can’t make her but she can make them. Apparently short of murder (or drawing a picture of a firearm) you can’t expell a student these days.
True ADD is a focus issue....like trying to hear over a roar of static or trying to see through a mass of butterflies. The attention is inward with the child, trying to deal with the distractions inside their own heads.
There are about 6 various types and degrees of ADD and ADHD. It’s real, just way a way overused term.
That IS the problem.
Where, in the US Constitution, does it say ANYONE has a RIGHT to education?
Most schools want the kids to be mindless, prozac zombies...
In many cases, they are. NYC public schools are full of kids who were born to drug and/or alcohol addicted mothers who didn't have anything approaching adequate nutrition during pregnancy. This type of thing definitely does lead to lower IQs, and learning and behavioral disabilities. Many of the kids are also not getting decent nutrition or adequate sleep, due to the sort of households their parents maintain, and this increases the negative effects of in utero damage.
So, I guess in your opinion, Daddy should have killed the principal. One thing I know for certain, I would be more concerned about what my daddy would have done to me after I got home if I ever did anything like that. He died several years ago and I still appreciate the good moral upbringing my parents provided.
In addition, the Spanish press in New York (which I read daily, since I’m Puerto Rican with family in the Bronx) has not mentioned a “afther” either... neither in photos, which are only of Dennis and his mother... so chances are very slim that a “father” is actually in the picture.
Oops. Type-o.
afther = father
Nowhere that I’ve seen. It must “emanate from the penumbra” like the “right” to an abortion, welfare, etc.
That’s what I thought too.
You are right-on there.
Most pediatricians will tell you they can’t even diagnose ADD until a child is 7 or so.
Better go back and reread the story Gondring. The woman who was willing to take the child was Sandy Ortiz, the baby sitter, not Jasmina Vasquez, the mother. The mother might have arrived later, but the story doesn't make that point clear. Your argument is wrong because of that misunderstanding. The authorities chose to keep a child from a non-parent on the second day of repeated problems. Doesn't sound like a police state to me, just school officials who are damned if they take action like the one they took or damned if they don't and another student or teacher is injured because of this out-of-control terror.
If you can possibly manage it, HOMESCHOOL!
Honestly, at age 6, academics can be covered in about 1/2 hour at home. The rest of the time can be spent doing what 6 year old’s need most: PLAY!
Play is a child’s most important work.
This was the 3rd incident in a two week time frame, and the second in two days. I would say that the school was acting in the best interests of the other students in the school by requiring a psychological evaluation. In all probability, the mother was notified of the two previous incidents and had taken no discernible action. How many violent incidents should the school allow before pursuing the best interests of the child's fellow students for safety's sake? For all we know, this procedure is defined in school policy and the school officials were only following the local Board of Education's prescribed protocol.
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