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To: Rick.Donaldson
The difference IS simple. Creationism is based solely on BELIEF with nothing but the word of God upon which to base those beliefs.

Evolution at least has some basis in scientific FACTS. That an Evolutionist wishes to belief his/her own idealism, and DISBELIEVE someone else’s is their problem, not mine.


Actually, both are based solely on BELIEF and the FACTS can be interpreted to support either BELIEF system. If you like, please share your favorite scientific FACT that is a basis for evolution.
44 posted on 01/25/2008 8:34:17 AM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Sopater
Actually, both are based solely on BELIEF and the FACTS can be interpreted to support either BELIEF system. If you like, please share your favorite scientific FACT that is a basis for evolution.

/sigh.

No, they aren't both based on "belief". And there are NO facts that can be proved in the Bible, not especially in Genesis. Sorry. How about you show ME your evidence for facts first, since you started this discussion and are evidently unable to do any research on your own regarding science.

I'll share one important aspect of evolution - but before I do, let me point out that I'm neither an evolutionist, nor am I a Creationist. I'm merely an observer.

Evolution is the change in traits (specifically genetic traits) that are inherited from one generation to the next, or even many generations later. It is a fact, a known fact, that the average lifespan of human beings in prehistory was not much more than 30 years old. This can be judged by bones and other tissues discovered. The average lifespan of a human being today is roughly 70. That lifespan has increased in the last 100 years alone from about 50 to 68. That's a fact. (Yes, I know you will say that life is easier on us, that's true too, but it is also a contributing factor to extended life).

A second example of this is height in men. Men in medieval Europe were roughly 5'4" or 5'5" on average. A 6' tall man was a giant. Prior to that, Europeans had an average height of 5'9" and actually got smaller for some reason. (That reason is simple genetics, which is directly responsible for evolution).

In the past 45 YEARS alone, Americans have grown an inch taller (on average) than those who were born prior to my time. (However, they also got a lot fatter... less exercise). These are examples of "evolution".

While I certainly understand your reluctance to accept the fact that science indeed has measurements it can perform to prove things, and your similar reluctance to accept that "beliefs are just beliefs" (which are sometimes based on nothing BUT FAITH) - your insistence that science isn't any "better" than religion is simply an argument to attempt to make science look bad.

I'm not saying that either is better or worse than the other - I'm simply stating facts. Science uses measurements, and proofs to cause acceptance. Religion uses FAITH to cause acceptance. There's a big difference in the methods and sometimes both are wrong, both are right and sometimes one is RIGHT and the other is plain wrong.
46 posted on 01/25/2008 8:49:02 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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