Well, let me fill you in. Just today I got a freepmail from a member of this board who was sickened by just the sort of crap you were posting, and she was judging pro-lifers by it. And keep this in mind: the woman in question has never had an abortion or participated in an abortion decision, and she's not a pro-choicer. Also please note that the posts she was responding to were somewhat tame compared to yours.
I tried to be gentle with the first post, but apparently I need to be more explicit. What you posted was garbage. It was garbage from the pit of Hell. You are no better than these people you call vermin, because like them you are a sinner who deserves Hell. You have just, like me, chosen diferent sins than they have.
There is a big difference between saying something is wrong and sending a message of hate.
There is a big difference between being careful about one's own morals and being self-righteous.
What you call crude is really just being hateful. And when I'm trying to save lives you make my job harder, and then pat yourself on the back for being such a great communicator.
There...was that crude enough to get through to you?
“Of the abortions reported in 1999, 26.2% of women who aborted experienced one previous abortion, 11.2% had two previous abortions, and 7.5% had three or more previous abortions.” Source credit: CDC
I have mentioned on several occasions that it’s a “mixed bag of nuts.” There will be many people of various ages, religious upbringings, races, socio-economic classes etc. Some will be pressured. Some are great people who are being led down a bad path. However, your argument is that basically all these women are victims, they are essentially not choosing this on their own free will, and they don’t know what they’re doing. Who’s ridiculous?
We live in a time where half the kids at school claim to be abused, where 1/3 of the adult population claim some form of mental illness at some point, and one thing is for sure, no one is responsible for their actions anymore.
Again, I agree that confrontation and alienation does not help your noble cause, and that the door to Gods house is always open to everyone, but pandering does not help. It’s what brought gay bishops into the Episcopal Church. It’s why a disease largely spread by homosexual, bisexual, and IV drug users can’t be called out for what it is, because after all, you don’t want to appear too radical. There too, are innocent and moral people afflicted, but what’s the trend? And even there, you have those who want to help and of course refuse to accept that not all are victims. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/resources/factsheets/msm.htm
It all boils down to social decay. America, in fact all Western Industrialized societies can be lumped tohether, have largely decomposed to something unrecognizable and unimaginable if it were compared to mainstream American values and behavior just 50 years ago. Norman Rockwell is dead in more than one way. The divorce rate, abortion, STDs, social movements that demand recognition of polygamy, the rate of teenage pregnancy, the amount of children raised by a single parent, the rate of crime (murder, rape, fraud…. across the board) as measured per 100,000 citizens, etc. etc. etc., where has the long term trend been? While there are small dips here or there, the long term trend has been negative, and illicit drug use is a perfect example as well. In WWII there were actual recorded cases of suicide after rejection by the armed forces, a mans word meant something, you didn’t see Americans burning their flag, asking to have the 10 commandments removed from court-rooms, or have Presidents perjure themselves and shrug it off as if it’s meaningless with American society largely going along with this notion. Why did America not care if the Commander in Chief had an adulterous affaire, committed fraternization since she was a subordinate, and then even perjure himself under oath? Like it or not, it’s hedonism. As long as the masses are fat and warm, they are OK with nearly anything. The modern coliseum is the TV, and many espouse to be a Caligula on the internet. We have more wealth and live longer, but what we call America is more decedent than ever. Of course beginning with the massive acceleration in decay starting in the 60s, as this phenomenon has become apparent even though not defined as such what it is, new words and entire academic fields of study have arisen, ethics. That’s helped a lot./sarc
The decay is a product of too much affluence. Urban living disconnected from the realities of nature and the threats in the world around them. The family unit all but only exists in small little niches for those who don’t subscribe to the village raising their children. There is anonymity in large metropolitan areas and people behave in ways they would not dare if their family or friends saw them. The importation of millions who are Americans in passport only, they want the jobs, but don’t share the vision which existed since the creation of the Constitution has helped wash out the most basic values this nation has held dear. There is a reason why our Constitution is today referred to as a “living document,” why it was written by the so called “framers” in 1787 “CE” (Common Era). The new immigrant seeks wealth but not integration and at times even despises the host nation’s value system. Again, as often language gives us away, and there is a reason why we no longer speak of a “melting pot” and celebrate “diversity.” But that too is probably too radical.
Another indicator is actually in this thread. Look at the reasons given for why many have abortions. You’re appalled, shocked, and you of course engage in ad-homonym attacks on me. What are the reasons for these abortions? Why do many of the women state they want them? http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf
Here’s yet another perspective. “Sanger identified the objective of her promotional activities as “unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children.” She also identified other values of the sexual revolution that she promoted when she wrote that “Women must have the right to live ... to love ... to be lazy ... to create ... to destroy ... The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order.” Legal abortion and infanticide, two of the ultimate goals of the sexual revolution was also described by Sanger as “the most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members...” Margaret Sanger promoted the use of birth control through many publications and speaking engagements until her death in 1966, with the 1920’s as her most prolific years in the promotion of birth control and sexual liberty.” Source credit: http://www.leaderu.com/humanities/casey/ch4.html
I’m going to assume you know who Sanger was.
You confuse dignity with self-righteousness. You even describe clear and simple depictions as pompous and arrogant. Yet you fail to bring one single argument. While I actually see your cause as noble and am obviously pro-life, the lack of reason on your side and your attacks do say something. Anyone can have dignity even if poor, sick, and left to oneself. Dignity is something people usually surrender on their own free will. Pandering is indulging others in a weaknesses or questionable wish and taste to achieve ones own end. The horror of the abortion needs to be deemphasized and the angle is that all the women are victims. I got it.