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To: Red6

A lot of men that pressure women into abortions aren’t family at all. Just boyfriends. But many are husbands and some are fathers. The impregnator is not always the one doing the pressuring. There are also women friends and mothers that do it as well as fathers, husbands and boyfriends.


31 posted on 01/22/2008 1:39:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: TigersEye

I’d imagine that in all reality it’s a mixed bag of nuts. You’ll have various types with various agenda’s seeking to have an abortion.

Nonetheless, the woman also has a say, the ultimate say. Many are not young innocent children and a significant number have multiple abortions throughout their life. As with prostitution, there is this need to victimize the women, who in some cases really are the victims; but often are simply low lives seeing a buck and literally willing to do anything for it. Abortion is about money and business for those performing it. It’s about power and the politics of sex for those legislating it. It’s about covering up ones failures at another’s expense, someone who has no say and no political power, the unborn, for the ones having it done.

Maybe I’m a narrow minded heartless ass. It wouldn’t be the first time I was described as such. But for most of these women I feel less sympathy than disgust. They’re low-lives, the vermin that throws their legs apart and have a good time but then does not want to deal with the consequences. There are literally thousands who wish to adopt, like my co-worker. There are places unwanted children can be dropped off at; no questions ask (Hospitals, police and fire stations). There are many organizations that will help young, poor and the unwed. Medically there is seldom a reason for an abortion, and even the 2.8% is most likely a generous statistic. Even if you have no insurance, no healthcare from anywhere, there are a plethora of plans and programs (Federal and state) for poor and prenatal care. There is no excuse. It’s about convenience, esthetics, and concealment for those who have it done. It does not fit into their timeline right now. It does not look good if our social circle knows I gave a kid up for adoption, so I’d rather kill it.

I know where you’re coming from. I agree that their boyfriends, family, or husbands share the guilt. As aforementioned, I am aware that it’s a mixed bag of nuts (the girls that do this and their reasons). I completely agree that sometimes people change and later they have some epiphany where they realize, for whatever reason, “My God, what did I do?” But like a gun which does not shoot by its self, these girls don’t have abortions accidentally. They chose this action. They can’t say they didn’t know what it is. They probably had a waiting period. They had to sign papers and were fully cognoscenti of their actions. Sometimes guilt is deserving, and while the victimization of the woman is often the nice and gentle path, I’d say some simply fit the description of words that would get censored in this forum.

Abortion is the magic pill. It’s the get out of jail free card for 97% or more and most of the people who are morally so decedent won’t get fixed. They might feel remorse, especially later when they have children, or especially if they can’t. People also feel bad when they have a lot of debt; they also feel bad when in prison for murder or rape. There is a difference between feeling sorry for oneself, and understanding that what one did is wrong. I admit, I might be full of crap and this topic is not my forte. But I have a little more calloused picture of the women who do this, a family, boyfriend, or even husband that pushes her. Sorry-


34 posted on 01/22/2008 3:10:34 PM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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