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Should He Stay or Should He Go? (Fred)
The Corner at National Review ^ | January 20, 2008 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 01/20/2008 6:57:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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I see that some people (Adler, Geraghty) are calling for Fred to stay in the race. The practical consequence of Thompson's presence so far has been to hand South Carolina to McCain. It's seems unlikely that this dynamic will change in other southern states. All Thompson is managing to do is to split the conservative vote and clear the way for McCain.

Adler also makes the improbable claim that Romney has been revealed as a very weak candidate, even though the information is right there on The Corner that Romney has garnered more votes so far than anyone else in the race.

Lastly, Romney gets slammed for spending money. He is the only candidate running who is attempting to win or place in every state. Giuliani, who also has spent quite a lot, has abandoned most of the country. Fred made a minimal effort outside SC. I half expect a plea for campaign finance reform to follow some of these complaints that Romney is spending too much money. It's very strange.

UPDATE: Another:

Fred is "splitting" the conservative vote with Huckabee. Don't ask me why a conservative would vote for Huckabee, but without Fred, Huckabee would have won S.C. big. If all of Fred's votes had gone to Romney, he still would have been third. Fred should stay in. I'd rather see a brokered convention than Huckabee or McCain as the nominee before then.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: conservatism; conservatives; election; electionpresident; elections; evangelicals; fred; fredthompson; gop; huckabee; johnmccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; republicans; sc2008; thompson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let Fred stay as long as his money holds out. Anything can happen in a brokered convention.


21 posted on 01/20/2008 7:14:08 PM PST by LiveFree99
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To: Soliton

If you take all the Thompson voters, plus the McCain, Huckabee and Romney voters who like Thompson’s position best but didn’t vote for him only because they succumbed to media propaganda that Thompson “can’t win,” then you have a majority base of support for Thompson.


22 posted on 01/20/2008 7:14:13 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred will stay in at least until super tuesday and likely through the convention. That will piss off a LOT of anti-Fred’s and that breaks my heart a lot but ya know, these things happen in politics.


23 posted on 01/20/2008 7:15:29 PM PST by HerrBlucher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't ask me why a conservative would vote for Huckabee, but without Fred, Huckabee would have won S.C. big.

I can't think of a better reason for Fred to stay in the game.

24 posted on 01/20/2008 7:16:11 PM PST by sourcery (Fred: Because "united we stand, divided we fall.")
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To: reasonisfaith

Rasmussen has Fred at 0.4% to win the nomination.


25 posted on 01/20/2008 7:16:59 PM PST by Soliton (Mitt/Huck 2008 "The 50 State Solution ")
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To: sourcery

I’ll give Fred money as long as he stays in...

Keep plugging FRed!!


26 posted on 01/20/2008 7:17:51 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: squidly
You are correct. A Fred departure gives a big boost to Huckleberry.

And that in and of itself is more than enough reason for fred to stay in.

27 posted on 01/20/2008 7:18:31 PM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred and Mitt are the only two candidates who will make it to the convention with a chance of winning. McCain and Huckabee will both hold delegate blocks with no chance of expanding beyond them. McCain is the independent's candidate. Huckabee will be unmasked shortly and be left with only what he has won to date.

That leaves a brokered convention with Fred and Mitt as the only possible contenders. Mitt will hold several times Fred's delegates, but no majority.

If this realization sets in earlier, Fred's primary voting support may surprise and he will go in with more.

Fred should stay in if he can finance it.

28 posted on 01/20/2008 7:18:34 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: sourcery
I can't think of a better reason for Fred to stay in the game.

Amen.

29 posted on 01/20/2008 7:18:38 PM PST by the808bass
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To: barryg

I think Huckster should leave the race. We need a true conservative.


30 posted on 01/20/2008 7:19:01 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If he stays there will be trouble...
If he goes there will be DOUBLE.

He should stay.

31 posted on 01/20/2008 7:19:42 PM PST by Yaelle (We still need Fred.)
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To: reasonisfaith

“This clarifies the picture somewhat. Thompson’s support is much higher than primary results suggest.”

The polls that count indicate otherwise.

It’s up to the candidate to overcome the MSM especially Republicans.

Fred has shown he can’t fight the MSM. How would he as POTUS?

We don’t need another Bush!


32 posted on 01/20/2008 7:19:44 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: squidly

“A Fred departure gives a big boost to Huckleberry.”

If then for only that reason...I want Fred to stay.


33 posted on 01/20/2008 7:19:50 PM PST by donnab (don't blame me ...I support Fred.)
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To: SIDENET

Thank goodness Fred ruined Huckabee’s big moment. If people think that the MSM can win an election for McCain in a Republican primary.....bring it on. He’s nothing without jellos.


34 posted on 01/20/2008 7:20:07 PM PST by egginanest ( ...save the squirrels...)
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To: Soliton

Fieldmarshaldj has Rudy McRombee at 0.0% to win the general.


35 posted on 01/20/2008 7:20:17 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: SIDENET

Hewitt has become Mitts’s Lady in Waiting.


36 posted on 01/20/2008 7:21:03 PM PST by donnab (don't blame me ...I support Fred.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There will be no brokered convention. McCain won SC and will win FL, too. Then, McCain will win NJ and NY and pick up most of CA. This race is over.


37 posted on 01/20/2008 7:21:06 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

“Fred has shown he can’t fight the MSM.”

This is a misstatement. The alternative to what Fred’s doing is to do what the rest of them do—suck up to the media!

Fred is doing it his way.


38 posted on 01/20/2008 7:21:50 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Rudy has zero delegates, but I dont see anyone suggesting he should quit.


39 posted on 01/20/2008 7:21:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Soliton

“Rasmussen has Fred at 0.4% to win the nomination.”

Who cares?


40 posted on 01/20/2008 7:22:25 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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