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Ron Paul, Featuring Special Guests "The Jew Haters"
Radar Magazine ^ | 1/18/08 | Nick Curran

Posted on 01/19/2008 7:54:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

In the stuffy world of politics, the Ron Paul campaign has earned the reputation of being something like a raucous, freedom-loving party. A raucous, freedom-loving party with lots of paranoid bigots. So it would probably be more surprising if the band reportedly headlining RonPaulapalooza didn't have a few teeny-tiny problems with the Jews, who they feel are trying to destroy everybody. The band Poker Face enjoys churning out a hard-chargin' "freedom rock" that they developed under the influence of Boston, the Beatles, and Frank Zappa, as well as a firm conviction that the Holocaust did not happen and that the Jews are in fact the lead agents of a "Satanic World Order."

And according to a notice sent out by RonPaulaplooza organizers, you can get yourself a taste when Poker Face (along with some "lesser-known bands") rocks the big event, now tentatively scheduled for the Fourth of July holiday weekend in Morehead, Kentucky. As of post time, organizers had not responded to Radar's anxious inquiries about the possible co-appearance of a sassy little slice of pizza known to sling some fairly dope rhymes about the Ron Paul revolution.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antisemites; apaulogists; brownshirtsforpaul; endorsedbydu; goosesteppersforpaul; klankoncert; liberalsforpaul; nazirock; paulestinians; paulqaeda; paulsies; paultards; prussianblue; ronpaul; shrimpboatcaptain; stormfronthouseband; surrendernotsemites; thedailykoscandidate; whitesupremacists
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To: sinanju
Of course, if Obama had bands in his corner with similar baggage, all us good, self-hating liberals would just nervously twiddle our thumbs and keep silent.

Yep. They're already keeping quiet about his racist pastor.

21 posted on 01/19/2008 8:31:24 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: elhombrelibre

Probably the supporters. It’s really odd seeing someone explain why it’s no big deal that their candidate is the undisputed favorite among the sort of people my grandfather was killing from 1943-1945.


22 posted on 01/19/2008 8:32:58 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“So, you’re saying we should keep thee Nazis, so our voter base doesn’t shrink? Maybe we should keep the Troofers too.”

You’re welcome to cite the post where anyone said such a thing on FR.

I guess you continue to support Bush, whose DOJ filed a brief in support of DC’s gun laws with the Supreme Court?

Or you could just keep your head in the sand and keep yelling GO TEAM GO! RAH RAH RAH! Your call.


23 posted on 01/19/2008 8:33:04 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“A few were purged (George W. Bush leaps to mind) but once the newsletters came out, the “it’s guilt by association, they did it to Goldwater” line was much harder to push.”

The TNR critique was a left wing critique!

I guess we know where you stand now.

Noted.

The newsletters railed against political correctness, the Bureau of Tobacco, Alcohol, and Firearms, against abortion, and against the loss of US sovereignty.

In other cases, he claims Paul was ‘defending’ David Duke when if you looked at the newsletter, the author was actually comparing Bill Clinton to him. In a liberal’s mind, that’s defending.

Good to know where you stand. With Bill Clinton, for gun control like Bush, and for abortion.


24 posted on 01/19/2008 8:37:01 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Do you want to deny other people their freedom to associate just because you disagree with their beliefs?

In 1943 my grandfather landed in Italy, where he spent the better part of his time between then and May of '45 killing people like the guys in Poker Face. People like the guys in Poker Face put several rounds into my great uncle Del at the Battle of the Bulge. People like the guys in Poker Face started a war that killed tens of millions. People like the guys in Poker Face conceived, designed, built, supplied and ran Auschwitz.

Passing the word that the candidate is no longer interested in hearing from, being seen with, or getting help from these people would not be a violation of freedom of association. It would be sane. And that's why Ron Paul hasn't done it.

25 posted on 01/19/2008 8:37:54 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
I’ve noticed the Paul Qaeda has been pretty quiet around here.

We are just enjoying the election results.

26 posted on 01/19/2008 8:38:22 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: CJ Wolf

Dumb post alert ping


27 posted on 01/19/2008 8:38:35 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Thanks for refusing to address the salient points I've made.

You're a typical knee-jerk Paul basher who enjoys picking at scab wounds with a rusty switchblade to the amusement of your fellow toy monkey-cymbal Paul bashing friends.

So I won't play your game in the future.

28 posted on 01/19/2008 8:39:25 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Passing the word that the candidate is no longer interested in hearing from, being seen with, or getting help from these people would not be a violation of freedom of association. It would be sane. And that’s why Ron Paul hasn’t done it.”

He specifically did in the last debate after Carl Cameron’s dumb question. Paul thwapped that pipsqueak.


29 posted on 01/19/2008 8:40:15 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback
A few were purged (George W. Bush leaps to mind) but once the newsletters came out, the “it’s guilt by association, they did it to Goldwater” line was much harder to push.

The newsletters' were much ado about nothing.

30 posted on 01/19/2008 8:41:11 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Mr. Silverback
People like the guys in Poker Face put several rounds into my great uncle Del at the Battle of the Bulge. People like the guys in Poker Face started a war that killed tens of millions. People like the guys in Poker Face conceived, designed, built, supplied and ran Auschwitz.

Paul has said he does not welcome these people support, but he would be contradicting himself if he told these people what to do. It would go against the grain of everything he believes in.

31 posted on 01/19/2008 8:43:10 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“The newsletters’ were much ado about nothing.”

Among FReepers who are smart enough to do 3 minutes of web searching and verify information for themselves, these ‘Paul turned me into a newt!” threads are actually creating Paul supporters.


32 posted on 01/19/2008 8:43:47 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Just out of curiosity, why did you ping me to this thread? ...especially with a reference to Hitler?


33 posted on 01/19/2008 8:48:05 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

What’s happening to Paul is pretty sad. Read Booker T. Washington’s quote about black “leaders,” and you’ll understand where I’m coming from. So-called conservatives in powerful positions have a vested interest in continuing the status-quo. Ron Paul is smashing that left/right paradigm that the two-party system have used to keep Americans divided.


34 posted on 01/19/2008 8:50:35 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Mr. Silverback
So, you're saying we should keep thee Nazis, so our voter base doesn't shrink? Maybe we should keep the Troofers too.

No, I'm saying the Neo-Con lovers should think twice before blanketing all Ron Paul supporters as evil bastards. It's going to cost the GOP dearly, especially if Ron Paul runs 3rd party. The GOP front runners are all anti-traditional conservatives and threaten to drive conservatives from the GOP itself.

35 posted on 01/19/2008 8:53:21 AM PST by xrp (RON PAUL! To HELL with neo-cons!)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Since when do glorified blog/ezine posts make it to front page news? Hello, topic abuse. The Radars top stories are about Gloria Beckham vomiting and about Lindsey Lohan.

Hmmm...but that doesn't mean it's not true, does it? Radar also has stories about Huckabee's South Carolina appearances in the top stories list, and CNN, Fox News, ABC Radio and my local newspaper all run stories about both Huckabee and Lindsay Lohan. Strike one!

The website http://ronpaulapalooza.com/ doesn’t list any bands and in fact says the date is tentative.

Radar says they received a notice. If they did not do so and they publlish a retraction, I will ask the mods to pull this thread. If the mods don't pull it, I will post an notice of the retraction to everyone who posted to this thread.

But baby, I don't think there will be a retracttion! Strike two!

The Paul campaign has nothing to do with this event. If you can prove it does, call the FEC, because they will fine him and and he will be history. Of course, it’s much easier to smear him by just alluding to it. Same as the accusations of him taking Soros money. If you can prove it - call the FEC. Soros will go to jail.

Right the Paul campaign has nothing to do with this...or with Don Black's donation...or with racist newsletters (the guy's qaulified to be commander in chief, but he can't read a newsletter he published for five years)...or with any of these. Strike three!

He said in the last debate that he doesn’t want truthers etc to support him, because he doesn’t believe what they do and their support doesn’t help him.

Their money does, and so does money raised at Stormfront. More to the point, however, if he dislikes the Troofers so much, why did it take him four appearances on the Alex Jones show to figure it out, including one on October 5th where Jones said "we're your base here" and Paul did nothing to dissuade that persception? Strike Four!

It’s much easier to smear though, isn’t it?

I and almost every other person on FR who opposes Paul talked issues from the beginning, particularly about the war that Dr. Paul would like to lose in Iraq. We were smeared as haters of the Constitution because we wanted to kill Al Qaidaa there, and just a coupple of days ago I was accused of being on the payroll of the Giuliani campaign since early last year even though I have never posted anything in support of him, and much that attacks him. I'm not whining (whining's for liberals and Paulites) but those are the facts. Strike five!

36 posted on 01/19/2008 8:54:22 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What’s happening to Paul is pretty sad. Read Booker T. Washington’s quote about black “leaders,” and you’ll understand where I’m coming from. So-called conservatives in powerful positions have a vested interest in continuing the status-quo. Ron Paul is smashing that left/right paradigm that the two-party system have used to keep Americans divided.

Exactly!

The late Murrary Rothbard has an excellent work on that subject as well, The Betrayal of the American Right

But it is difficult to think of how else The Betrayal of the American Right can be described. Murray N. Rothbard chronicles the emergence of an American right wing that gave lip service to free-market principles and "limited government," but whose first priority, for which it was willing to sacrifice anything else, was military interventionism around the world. That sounds familiar, to be sure, but as Rothbard shows, it is neither recent nor anomalous. It goes back to the very beginnings of the organized conservative movement in the 1950s. http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/betrayal/index.html

37 posted on 01/19/2008 8:58:10 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Who here have ever said Paul was the real conservative here, without being subject to ridicule?

Oh, so if 1,000 people said he's the only conservative in the racee, but at least one person made fun of each of them, I can't say we've been told that? Puhleeze. Take a logic course.

If that POS pro-abortion Rudy can be a Republican, then so can Dr. Paul.

My thesis is not that Ron Paul is libertarian and therefore not welcome in the GOP, my thesis is that there's something fundamentally wrong and unconservative and unlibertarian about a guy who inspires passion among goosesteppers.

When you have a message like Ron Paul has, you're bound to attract the undesirables.

Yep, undesirables just like the ones my Grandfather was killling from 1943-1945. Undesirables like the ones who shot my Great-Uncle Del at the Bulge. Undesirables like the people who designed and ran Auschwitz.

Most of the Ron Paul supporters have already been given the boot here, because they crossed the line or you guys kept pinging the Mods because you were getting beat-down in discussion.

Yeah, keep thinking it was because we couldn't defend ourselves against the great minds that back Run Paul. [CHORTLE!]

38 posted on 01/19/2008 9:01:29 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Interesting when the GOP nominee loses in the general election, we Troofers and white supremacists are suddenly going to become traitorous conservatives and losertarians who wouldn't toe the party line.

You won't hear me say that. I'm all for showing y'all the door. A party that needs you to win isn't worth having.

39 posted on 01/19/2008 9:03:46 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Among FReepers who are smart enough to do 3 minutes of web searching and verify information for themselves, these ‘Paul turned me into a newt!” threads are actually creating Paul supporters.

Amen.

A tenet of Conservatism is being fair minded and objective (that is why we are conservatives)

Thus, those vicious type of smear attacks tend to backfire.

40 posted on 01/19/2008 9:07:47 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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