Posted on 01/10/2008 11:30:21 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson
So you are suggesting government, your county government for example has adequate communications for dealing with all disasters, and can readily contact citizens all over your region, for things like immediate status reports and other vital information?
If so, if you don't mind me asking, what type communications are they using to communicate with the citizens? And what type of communications are the citizens using to communicate with your local government during massive shutdowns and big time disasters?
In our city, county, and state EOC’s there are amateur radio stations setup and ready for use in emergencies. When events happen, they are staffed by trained ARES/RACES operators who have been given security clearances to obtain access to the equipment.
Yes, we have similar. I just wanted the other poster to respond. Thanks.
“Romney is a such ._.. / _ _ _ / ... / . / ._.”
and a _.. /.. /._ _. / ... /_ _../../_ for saying that about hams.
You are making false assumptions about something Romney never said or inferred. You just don't like him.
That's OK, but you are being dishonest, and that is not OK.
Amateur radio is indeed regulated, but not to the degree that fist responder communications are in todays world. There are damn good reasons for the regulatory aspects. The first thing that a enemy does during a attack, is to damage the communication infrastructure. This is why it is now hardened, and getting more so.
You sir, are a amateur, not a professional. Don't mix the two. One can compliment the other, but they must be separate for good reason.
Your assumptions are totally wrong.
I am also not offended as a HAM. As an RN, having done the FEMA Professional Development course, and having been involved in RACES, I am very disturbed that he doesn’t know the components of disaster preparedness.
As someone who is active in ARES, RACES, and SKYWARN, I have no use for Mitt after this statement.
As for those who say not voting for him because of this issue is “Childish” well.. this is certainly not the only issue.. he also wants to ban my AR15s, and subject me to a lifetime of fines if I dare not comply with his nationwide Romneycare.
No votes for Mitt here.
I know a lot of hams myself, so I keep aware of the field's capabilities and controversies.
The general public - I'm talking about the educated, tech-aware demographic - has two negative perceptions of the ham community. Age is the big one ("I went to one of those ham swap meets, and saw a sea of wheelchairs and oxygen tanks..."). There is also a pereption of irrelevancy. Hams get credit for being the first geeks, for doing all the pioneer work in radio propagation that got commercial radio started, then led to all those other applications throughout the twentieth century. But now there is a perception that the ham service, hemmed in as it is by regulation and limited by international treaty to the lowest common denominator of rights granted by all the different cultures of the world, is no longer relevant in a day when a Web service can deliver encrypted global communications instantly. I have heard this called the "You can't even order pizza" problem.
The ham community needs to counter these perceptions if it's going to survive. A major emphasis on emergency management could do this. Ham clubs could help organize and coordinate emergency response o disaster in their community. It would take just one instance of "hams banding together during a hurricane" to change the public's perception of the field.
Hams have done that for decades and the public's perception is positive.
The issue is Romney's incompetence.
That Romney would substitute fake station licenses
to his bots and operatives as he distributed fake police badges
is not a substitute for the good will, abiding by law, citizenship,
and knowledge that amateur radio operators have ALREADY demonstrated
unlike Romney.
Our police and fire are directly in communication with the State Emergency response system, and this is staffed with people in every jurisdiction at present. They also have cruisers loaded with comm equipment and a State officer in each county. My understanding is that the State is in the chain of command under homeland security in DC and various sub stations. They have video conference stuff as well but I'm not cleared to see it. What I do for the city is not a critical job so I am out of that loop.
We also have Ham radio and amateur air search and rescue integrated where it is available. They are indeed in the chain where we can get dependable clubs and various groups together.
I didn’t think you were being “nasty”. no one has been “nasty” except for a couple of trolls who started making snippy remarks before 4 minutes had passed, and NOT enough time to have read the article, read the comments, checked the link, watched the video. Sorry, anyone who posts snippy comments in the first few seconds is being snippy (and I’m just as guilty sometimes, the difference BEING I always go read the articles even if I’m being snippy lol). No, I’m trying to get a point across here and many people are simply making assumptions and not reading at all, you can SEE it if you read the article and later posts I’ve made.
I can tell you what they will use... BUT, I don’t live there so I’ll leave it up to the person who said it was all “top secret” and all that nonsense.
My original post was in response to two things:
A. Your Headline, which infers that you will not vote for Mitt because his demeaned ham radio and
B. Your original post. I have read your post. It is all centered around one thing: Ham radio.
If you are not a one issue voter, great! Your post made it appear so.
And, I will end this post without any attempt to ridicule or belittle, as you did in your last post.
If so, if you don't mind me asking, what type communications are they using to communicate with the citizens? And what type of communications are the citizens using to communicate with your local government during massive shutdowns and big time disasters?
In my neck of the woods, we have a 911 system with reverse calling so that the phones are used if they are still up and running. The system is being set up for cellular as well, but that is not yet done.
In massive shutdowns and large disasters there are no land line telephone, or cell phones.
If you could specifically address the above. Thanks.
As have we all. (The “clearances”). Those ‘clearances’ are to access local security controlled areas of buildings. That has nothing to do with operating radios. The Red Cross was pushing recently for “clearances” as some people call them (National Agency Checks, aka background checks) and that ain’t gonna fly. You might require some sort of specific access to a Police Operations Center. but, I promise the minute half or more of the “cleared hams” that DON”T show up because they were killed in the disaster other hams will be quickly granted operational access without a damned clearance. lol
I think ol' Mitt has never even HAD an emergency in Massachusets. "What's an earthquake?" Having something unforseen happen schools a person up pretty quickly, and he's a virgin.
Pretty big of you.
This all seems to be an obscure meeting on an obscure subject held over two years ago. Did the ARRL seek to provide some information to the Governor after that meeting and did he step forward and refuse to sign the usual declaration of state Ham Radio Days that most states have?
Did he step forth and announce that he felt it a wise bit of legislation to forbid all ham radio in Massachusetts? I kinda doubt it.
Someone call the campaign and ask if the Romney platform is to oppose ham radio and all of its facets and get it formally quoted. If you don’t have an explicit statement of that sort, you have nothing.
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