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Six candidates to participate in historic 2008 S.C. GOP Presidential Candidates Debate (No Hunter)
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Posted on 01/09/2008 11:47:11 AM PST by pissant
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To: ConorMacNessa
Ron Paul has more traction than Hunter?
Well that explains it.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:01:40 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: pissant
This is BS. Pure, smelly BS.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:01:48 PM PST
by
polymuser
(Happy New Year)
To: pissant
I’ll be giving them a call today. Hunter did fairly well in the straw polls so I’m not sure why the GOP leadership didn’t extend an invitation to him. Additionaly - his vast experience on the House Armed Services Commitee will also bring a knowledgable voice to the debates during this time of war.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:02:01 PM PST
by
geopyg
(Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory. ------ www.gohunter08.com ------)
To: tiger-one
You do realize that Faux is run by one of Guiliani’s buddies, right?
To: EternalVigilance
They have already picked McCain/Clinton. Two crazies will create a lot of air time for the MSM and cable news.
To: tiger-one
The RNC has picked their man McCain!
To: tiger-one; Taxman; Ladycalif; chicagolady; MountainFlower; Gelato; Delphinium; joanie-f
And RNC is doing what? Laughing at you.
RNC head denies party's responsibility to electorate for primary election process
Chairman Mike Duncan responds to Keyes campaign's allegations of 'Iowa deception'
January 9, 2008
WASHINGTON, D.C. Monday, Stephen Stone, CEO of Alan Keyes for President, met with Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan to discuss "evidence of deception by the Iowa Republican Party with regard to the recent caucuses."
Stone delivered a letter that described the campaign's allegations against Iowa GOP officials. According to Stone, the state party's behavior in the caucuses "disenfranchises voters" and appears to have "violated the election laws."
Among the facts outlined by Stone:
- State party leaders gave precinct chairs a "suggested ballot" of presidential candidates that was used to guide caucus-goers in the nominating and voting process, and Alan Keyes' name was excluded from the list. The reason given by party officials was that Keyes "announced too late" although he announced four months ago on Sept. 14, nine days after Fred Thompson. Stone noted the party's list of favored candidates amounted to free advertising and gave them an unfair advantage.
- Party leaders claimed they weren't aware Keyes was running, even though many of these officials personally attended a Dec. 12 Iowa presidential debate involving all the major Republican candidates, including Keyes. The debate, sponsored by the Des Moines Register, was broadcast nationally by CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, C-SPAN, and PBS.
- Claiming they couldn't include Keyes' name in their electronic reporting system, GOP officials have refused to release the total number of votes for Keyes, saying they don't know the total even though witnesses say they saw precinct chairs reporting to state officials the number of votes received by Keyes at the caucuses. A C-SPAN viewer claims he saw a video clip that documented the reporting of votes for Keyes to state headquarters by two precinct chairs.
- The Iowa GOP continues to exclude Keyes as a candidate on their website (www.iowagop.net) as well as exclude his vote totals as though his candidacy doesn't exist.
- According to Iowa statutes, failure by officials to report the votes of qualified voters in a presidential precinct caucus is illegal and punishable by law.
- The exclusion of Keyes appears motivated by bias against him in a way that is un-American and contrary to democratic principles.
Said Stone, "In our judgment, the tactics we've witnessed by the state party are reminiscent of 'communist-style' electoral politics. By unfairly developing a 'suggested ballot' of candidates, and allowing irregular handling of votes for Ambassador Keyes, state party officials created an atmosphere of intimidation for Keyes voters."
"Aside from damaging the environment for free choice in the election process" Stone said he told RNC chairman Duncan "such deceptive practices are both unethical and illegal."
Duncan's response, Stone said, was to deny that the Republican Party has any responsibility for the illegal or improper actions of state parties. According to Stone, this response is unacceptable, since the RNC recently penalized several state parties for pushing the 2008 presidential primaries far ahead of schedule, due to their inordinate zeal to be "first in the nation."
As punishment, the national party stripped New Hampshire, Wyoming, Michigan, Florida, and South Carolina of half their delegates to the national GOP convention, to be held in Minneapolis in September. "If the RNC can do this, it can do similar things to stop states like Iowa from ignoring fair electoral process and deceiving and disenfranchising the electorate," Stone added.
The full text of Stone's letter to Chairman Duncan is available below along with supporting documents and the testimony of witnesses.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:05:39 PM PST
by
EternalVigilance
(Cut the heart out of the GOP platform, and the party will be nothing but "a Weekend at Bernie's...)
To: All; pissant
“Contact: Rob Godfrey, SC GOP Communications Director
803.807.7144
The SC GOP main number: Phone: 803.988.8440
Fox News: 1-888-369-4762.”
I will tell them that Hunter fought for THEIR free speech, and so did his son, and it is so wrong to single him out, and not allow him to have free speech.
Also, the next time the RNC solicits for $$, here’s another reason not to donate to them, and tell them so.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:06:34 PM PST
by
Sun
(Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
To: pissant
The Lords of Information Have Spoken
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:08:45 PM PST
by
WalterSkinner
( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
To: pissant
This whole election process has become a farce.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:09:17 PM PST
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
To: pissant
And yet the RNC has to nerve to continue to ask ME for money! I will continue to say no, and at the polls at well on election day.
We haven’t let the, they left us! as Zell would say.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:09:19 PM PST
by
gidget7
( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
To: pissant
It isn't just FOX.
They are letting the Liberals in NH decide who debates in SC.
G(oodbye) O(ld) P(arty).
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:10:41 PM PST
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: pissant
But nah, Fox and the GOP dont want him in the debates.
Sad state of affairs when our party turns their backs on those who brought them to power.
To: pissant
FOX Corp line 212-301-3000 you will get an operator who wants a name so she can look it up. I gave her Hume, she said a name other than a reporter, so just keep calling day and night and tell HER why we are calling. Keep their lines busy sooner or later they will get the message.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:11:07 PM PST
by
tiger-one
(The night has a thousand eyes)
To: pissant
I would exclude Ron Paul and include Hunter, if it was up to me.
However, you Hunter folks cannot have it both ways.
When asked why Hunter is not campaigning, you tell us that he is skipping Iowa and New Hampshire. This in spite of the significant campaigning he did early in Iowa and the campaigning he did in NH before the primary. Then after he finishes at less than one percent, we are told this is meaningless because, after all, he wasn’t even trying!
If he isn’t even trying, then there is no real reason to include him in debates with the candidates who are trying. If he is trying, let him prove it by campaigning regularly like the serious candidates.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:13:29 PM PST
by
iowamark
To: pissant
It’s the South Carolina Republican Party chairman that extended the invitations and didn’t include Hunter. Fox news is just covering it. I would suspect that Hunter has been shunned by those in his own party for the same reason Tancredo has been for years. Less illegals means less cheap labor...means less profit margins for those that employ them....means less campaign contributions to the RNC.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:13:40 PM PST
by
LaurenD
To: gidget7
wow, spellcheck didn’t pick that up. LOL my apologies. We haven’t left them, they left us.
I cancelled FOX already. I am not paying 10.00 a month extra for this!
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:14:08 PM PST
by
gidget7
( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
To: pissant
Please take out Ron Paul..........he is a dimocrat not a republican.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:14:12 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: pissant
One simple rule. If you’re on the ballot, you’re in the debate. I’m not a fan of government force, but the FEC and FCC may want to consider enforcing its “equal time” rule and tell Fox to either let them in the debate or give them free airtime, in the same timeslot.
To: tiger-one
Thanks. Left a comment. Loathing does not fully express my sentiments for Fox.
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posted on
01/09/2008 12:15:43 PM PST
by
Califreak
(Duncan Hunter-no clothespin necessary!)
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