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To: A CA Guy
No sense in getting your worst enemy elected because there isn’t the perfect Republican candidate.

AFAIC there are very few candidates of either party who are worse enemies of conservative principles and ideals than Giuliani and his ilk. I won't vote for a two-faced pro-abortion, anti-2nd Amendment, pro-"gay marriage", anti-family values liberal just because he or she has a capital R listed after his or her name.

If the slide into liberalism by the Republican party isn't stopped here and now there soon will not be an organized party left to counterbalance the Democrat libertines and Marxists who dominate the other major party. At some point very soon the conservatives, both social and fiscal, who still remain in the GOP must do whatever it takes to shake out the liberal trash that has accumulated in the party, and start nominating and electing both social and fiscal conservatives who represent what the party has stood for until very recently since it's last major renovation by Reagan and his supporters in the early 1980s. When our top ranked candidates in the polls are equally as liberal as the Democrats' candidates and our lowest ranked candidates are the most conservative of the bunch, it's very clear that something is rotten in the party and that rotten deadwood must be kept from gaining a major position of power in the party organization if conservatism is to even merely survive in the party, much less to dominate.

If it requires losing an election and suffering through 4 years of a Democrat administration to stop the GOP's downhill slide into me-too liberalism, then that's the price we will have to pay for allowing ourselves to be duped into choosing RINOs such as Rudy and Arnold to play such important roles in the party in the first place. I spent 2 decades in a GOP which was run and dominated by northeastern country club liberals, and if that's what the party is returning to I won't remain in it and support it's liberal candidates for another election cycle, much less another decade.

558 posted on 01/10/2008 6:49:24 AM PST by epow (Isn't it odd how hard working people seem to get all the lucky breaks?)
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To: epow
Big lack of smarts on your part.

#1 The Democrats would be three times worse.
#2 Any Republican will do better on national security, taxation, not creating complete socialized medicine, no cut and run, better for business, the economy and JUDGES.

We are for sure going to replace TWO justices in the next 4 years. Both are liberal and you want a Republican there to appoint them over who you get for the next thirty years from Democrats.

I see a ton of vapidity in allowing Democrats in office when you know their stated goals are socialized medicine, liberal justices that will practice social engineering, growing unions, government employment, taxes for all and they want to be weak on national defense.

You need to through your pride and stubbornness aside and to just look at what is at stake this time.

BAD TIME TO LET DEMOCRATS HAVE POWER epow.
Then you’d be the first one on FR to come back and cry about Justices appointed by Hillary that are for legalizing euthanasia. You’ll get justices from Hillary that would outlaw a fence at our border and we have to then wait 20 years for enough libs to die on the court again to swing it back.

WAKE UP epow, you are missing the whole gravity of the issue and what your lack of vote for a R will cost you this time around.

You could I guess consider getting a tattoo saying I LOVE HILLARY and be done with it.
You are really screwing up here.
Too much on the line to allow Democrats any power.

564 posted on 01/10/2008 12:25:42 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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