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US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists
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Posted on 01/04/2008 2:12:20 PM PST by Sub-Driver

US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists Jan 4 05:29 PM US/Eastern A day after ordained Baptist minister Mike Huckabee finished first in the opening round to choose a Republican candidate for the White House, scientists warned Americans against electing a leader who doubts evolution.

"The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming," University of Michigan professor Gilbert Omenn told reporters at the launch of a book on evolution by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS).

"I would worry that a president who didn't believe in the evolution arguments wouldn't believe in those other arguments either. This is a way of leading our country to ruin," added Omenn, who was part of a panel of experts at the launch of "Science, Evolution and Creationism."

Former Arkansas governor Huckabee said in a debate in May that he did not believe in evolution.

A poll conducted last year showed that two-thirds of Americans believe in creationism, or the theory that God created humans at a single point in time, while 53 percent believe that humans developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life -- the theory of evolution.

Around a quarter of Americans said they believe in both.

The evolution versus creationism debate has crept into school classrooms and politics, where it is mainly conservative Republicans who espouse the non-scientific belief.

"If our country starts to behave irrationally whereas all the other countries coming up and chasing us (to take over as the world leaders in science and technology) behaving rationally, we are doomed," Omenn said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; evolution; gilbertomenn; kookscientist; leftwingwackjob; phonylogic
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s okay to attack Christians for their beliefs but don’t ever attack Muslims, Jews, Wiccans or Druids.


81 posted on 01/05/2008 11:29:16 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: A. Morgan

You seem to be in the same category!


82 posted on 01/05/2008 11:33:06 AM PST by BillT
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To: Sub-Driver

“US ‘doomed’ if creationist president elected: scientists”

Translation: Funny, the scientists don’t complain about taking
Federal Dollars provided by law-abiding, tax-paying creationsists.

Except to complain that they never get enough money.


83 posted on 01/05/2008 11:37:34 AM PST by VOA
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To: higgmeister

I was doing the math from his quoted poll results too. I got:

66% that believe in creation + 25 % that believe in both = 92%.

Leaving 8% that believe in evolution only. 8% That’s the important, and unexpressed, number in the poll.

And a politician running for the presidency is supposed to want to appeal only to 8% of the electorate? He may be one of Hillary’s consultants with that logic.


84 posted on 01/05/2008 11:37:51 AM PST by News Junkie (Faith and Reason)
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To: GreenOgre

Hey Mo Ron,
What is scientific about a “BIG BANG”.
To believe that everything in the universe, and the teeming life on earth, arose from almost nothing takes faith. So get off with your little arrogant self. You are an evolutionists and you believe that life came from dead matter. You have never seen it happen and can’t prove it. You are a great man of faith! Your belief in evolution THEORY is superstition that stands in the place of knowledge. So get off of of your uppity “scientific” self. Ok? Thank you.


85 posted on 01/05/2008 11:41:47 AM PST by discipler (Shi Tao gets 10 yrs. Revealed China's plan to control the media on Tienanmen 15th Anniversary)
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To: Sub-Driver
"The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming,"

200 years ago: "The logic that convinces us there is no God is the same logic which helped us discover phlogiston and the fact that drawing blood with leeches will remove bad body humors and help cure the sick"

86 posted on 01/05/2008 11:46:43 AM PST by joebuck
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To: Sub-Driver
University of Michigan professor...

Think he might be a liberal?

87 posted on 01/05/2008 12:08:48 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: editor-surveyor

Talk about religious fanaticism!


88 posted on 01/05/2008 1:12:30 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Sub-Driver

The greatest scientific discoveries ever made have come from God and CHRIST believing men. Amazing the lengths people go to deny the blinding Truth.


90 posted on 01/05/2008 2:00:42 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Sub-Driver
scientists warned Americans against electing a leader who doubts evolution.

That ranks right up there with terrorism, taxes, and the economy.

91 posted on 01/05/2008 2:04:50 PM PST by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God - Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: Sub-Driver
DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!

92 posted on 01/05/2008 2:06:34 PM PST by yield 2 the right
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Hah, Hah, thanks for the ping to a great headline. Yup, the sun will stop rising in the morning, rivers will stop flowing, industry will grind to a halt, and the oceans will boil if we elect a creationist. We’re doomed!


93 posted on 01/05/2008 2:22:43 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, you would think that they would support the Huckster since he isn’t a creationist but an IDer.


94 posted on 01/05/2008 2:34:20 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Sub-Driver
The evolution versus creationism debate has crept into school classrooms and politics, where it is mainly conservative Republicans who espouse the non-scientific belief.

Crept into the classroom???

What a joke. There was no debate until the evos forcibly had it removed through the bully tactics of the ACLU and the abuse of the judiciary.

All people are wanting is to have creation back and given equal time. Their money, their kids. Evolutionists have NOT disproved creation yet.

95 posted on 01/05/2008 2:53:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GreenOgre

Our schools have been consistently doing worse for all the decades that evolution has replaced creation.

At this point, creation is virtually untaught in public schools unless some Biology teacher covers it anyway.

It’s mostly taught in private schools and homeschools alongside evolution.

Now, not only have the public schools continued to decline in the hard sciences in those same decades in spite of the virtual monopoly evolution has enjoyed; but private school and homeschool test scores for standardized tests and SAT/ACT tests have consistently been higher than public school scores. All this with the teaching of creation alongside evolution.

Now, somehow you’re in a position of demonstrating that teaching of creation is going to harm public education and performance in the science area.

Go ahead.


96 posted on 01/05/2008 3:01:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: fish hawk

Atheist?

Like Lenin, or Stalin, or Pol Pot?

There’s something about those atheist regimes that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


97 posted on 01/05/2008 3:04:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: gondramB
But they do recognize that almost all progress in civilization comes from science and a President who doesn’t believe in evolution (or atomic theory or acids and bases or electromagnetic theory or any core science) would never be able to set the right priorities.

Are priorities *scientific*?

And what *right* priorities would that be anyway?

What *scientific* decisions does the president need to make?

98 posted on 01/05/2008 3:08:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: roses of sharon

Actually, we enjoy checking in on the mysteries of the Universe in here to get away from it sometimes.

Enjoy the debates. Can’t think about war ALL the time.


99 posted on 01/05/2008 3:25:42 PM PST by MacDorcha (We have been at war with this mindset since before the Socratic method was borne.)
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To: GreenOgre

You first- tell us how the recent decades of teaching evolution have improved our steadily slipping academic programs.

At least when the Bible was allowed in schools, kids learned morals. (And how to read, write, think, debate, do long division etc., etc.)


100 posted on 01/05/2008 3:31:11 PM PST by MacDorcha (We have been at war with this mindset since before the Socratic method was borne.)
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