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US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists
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Posted on 01/04/2008 2:12:20 PM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

University of Michigan professor Gilbert Omenn has earned a degree. Good for him. He’s a bigoted idiot.


161 posted on 01/06/2008 9:54:48 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: 3AngelaD

“distinguish between a belief and a theory”

Of course, one must begin by dismissing out of hand all evidence and reasoned argument in favor of a belief.

Then and only then is one ready to proceed.


162 posted on 01/06/2008 11:37:47 PM PST by dsc
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To: Sub-Driver
Ha, we had presidents who didn't believe in evolution for at least a hundred years, and did our country suffer because of it?


163 posted on 01/07/2008 2:45:37 AM PST by Berosus (Support our troops, bring them home -- from Bosnia.)
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To: DennisR
"the scientific fact that water consists of two H atoms and one O atom orientated as a 109-degree polar bond requires no consensus."

104.5o.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

164 posted on 01/07/2008 2:55:38 AM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: dsc

I have not the slightest idea what you mean.


165 posted on 01/07/2008 5:36:13 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Dumb_Ox

agreed...the way they were worded set them up as mutually exclusive, but I knew that the “author” meant the 25% believed in Intelligent Design...

you have to consider the entire article was written at a 3rd-grade level. =)


166 posted on 01/07/2008 6:14:50 AM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Sub-Driver
US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists

There are nutjobs in every group. Apparently, these 'scientists' are among them.

167 posted on 01/07/2008 6:32:24 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sure. Just describe in excruciatingly specific scientific detail exactly how “macroevolution” occured(s) on a biochemical, cellular, and genetic level. Enough of the dinosaur specials on TV where an authoritative voice describes how amphibians and arthropods “evolved”. Give me the biochemical pathways and describe them fully and completely. What? No can do? Too bad!


168 posted on 01/07/2008 6:40:38 AM PST by Doc Savage (The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants)
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To: gondramB

“That doesn’t describe most parents. Many families either only have one parent or both have to work. And many are not educated enough to educate others. And frankly most parents don’t care enough to do the hard work and commitment that it takes to home school.

“So while I agree that many successful kids come out of home schooling and more people could home school, it doesn’t work as a model for the masses.”


You are probably not aware, then, that the numbers of home schooling families from among “the masses” (as you say) are expanding rapidly.

I just don’t jive with the current slogan-ish comments that suggest that it requires two parents to work. We’ve been married 32 years. My wife has never worked outside the home. We have owned two homes without ever going into debt to a bank. No, we didn’t inherit anything, nor did we win any sweepstakes. I have an earned doctorate, and never borrowed money to pay a college or university. Two, thus far, of our seven children are college grads, one with a masters degree. Nobody borrowed money for their educations.

There’s just a way to do things.

But I wasn’t making the point that anyone should home school. My point was that Christians (called by the one I responding to, “superstitious” are not stupid people.


169 posted on 01/07/2008 7:56:49 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
"My point was that Christians (called by the one I responding to, “superstitious” are not stupid people."

You just don't understand how simple the thought process is.

Step 1. All smart people believe in evolution.

Step 2. Those who don't believe in evolution are 'stupid people'.

Step 3. End of program.

Step 4. Return to Step 1.

170 posted on 01/07/2008 8:38:02 AM PST by GourmetDan
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To: 3AngelaD

“I have not the slightest idea what you mean.”

Well, if there is evidence and reasoned argument to support a belief, then what is the difference between a belief and a theory.


171 posted on 01/07/2008 10:26:48 AM PST by dsc
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To: John Leland 1789

“There’s just a way to do things.”

I think you may be overlooking or underestimating the importance of the apparent fact that you are exceptionally smart, whereas many other people are not.

It’s not that we don’t want to do things as well as you have, and be a great success like you are. It’s just that we can’t, because we’re dumb.

Unfortunately, then, your model is not suitable for the great mass of humanity.


172 posted on 01/07/2008 10:31:02 AM PST by dsc
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To: narses

It's completely irrelevant what the president "believes" about the fossil record or monkey bones mythologies. Unless, of course, he or she embraces radical Social Darwinism and wants to impose eugenics programs derived from that.

They need to do some more homework and explain how the theories of Evolution should in any way influence the rule of law, taxation, national defense, or upholding the Constitution. Presidential powers are pretty limited. Which scientific theories deserve attention is up to the academic and scientific communities. The U.S. Constitution does not authorize a federal statist tyranny over education as imagined by secular humanists.

Secular humanists and scientists remain free to pursue their peculiar fantasies about monkey bones and alpha ape men whether Huckabee gets elected or not.

They can always seek consolation in Edgar Rice Burroughs or the Johnny Weismuller Tarzan movies if they feel too threatened.

Commander Pocket Protector Alert.

173 posted on 01/07/2008 10:42:32 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Berosus
Ha, we had presidents who didn't believe in evolution for at least a hundred years, and did our country suffer because of it?


163 posted on 01/07/2008 5:45:37 AM EST by Berosus (Support our troops, bring them home -- from Bosnia.)

In fairness to the low caste hillbillies Clinton, Dean, and Franken, the diet was better in the 1700s. They drank fresh raw milk and ate more fresh protein. 18th-century gentleman farmers spent more time outdoors.

But, yes, it's arguable that as a nation, the U.S. faired better when not burdened by spastic, neurotic secular humanists whining about monkeys.

174 posted on 01/07/2008 10:53:02 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: editor-surveyor

Still waiting for substantiation...


175 posted on 01/07/2008 12:32:00 PM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

You know as well as I do that substantiation will not be forthcoming from that quarter. It’s sad but true that a sizable, important part of the conservative movement has decided that they would rather accept a Seventh-Day Adventist armchair geologists’ early 20th century notions about the earth than the evidence the earth itself provides.

This is especially troubling as, according to their belief system, the earth itself is the work of their God and should therefore be a perfect and inerrant record of his work.

That they are capable of such cognitive dissonance is troubling, considering how important they are to the political viability of conservatism in this country.


176 posted on 01/07/2008 12:52:37 PM PST by 49th
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To: dsc
There is no way to experimentally verify a belief. If it were verifiable, it would be a fact, such as gravity, not a belief, regardless of evidence and reasoned argument. A theory incorporates one or more strands of an inquiry, or hypotheses if you will, based on the scientific method, into a coherent whole that is, in turn, itself subject to the scientific method. Many people misunderstand the scientific method, and in particular, the theory of evolution. It is just that: a theory. It is not a belief, nor is it a fact. It is simply the most rational, empirical explanation that science has devised, so far, to explain what has been observed, recorded and measured in experiments that can be reproduced, with the same results, by other researchers. There may be other, better explanations for phenomena that science has observed and for which science has devised the theory of evolution to describe. If so those alternative explanations would be subject to the rigor of the scientific method. The Russian Lysenko’s theories of environmentally acquired inheritance, offering an alternative explanation, are a case in point, but they were disproved. I personally do not find the theory of evolution to be in conflict with the Biblical account of Creation. I am taken aback, however, when people don't know the difference.
177 posted on 01/07/2008 12:53:05 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Sub-Driver

Does Obama believe in Evolution or does his constituency?


178 posted on 01/07/2008 12:54:52 PM PST by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: Sub-Driver

ping


179 posted on 01/07/2008 1:13:21 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: 49th

Cognitive dissonance indeed.


180 posted on 01/07/2008 1:22:43 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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