[broncobilly]

Yeah, but the Catholics are not listed as a *cult group* in the “Kingdom of the Cults” —

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Walter Martin was an ignorant man. Why do you let him do your thinking for you?
We have had the definition of a “cult” posted several times on FR. The first requirement, according to this definition, is that they do not teach we are saved by works, only grace.
That definition therefore indicates that the Catholics are a cult.
I don’t think the Evangelicals can define what a Christian and a cult is. There are so many differences in Christianity, every time you try to make a definition you leave someone out you don’t want to leave out.

Why don’t you just stop trying to draw circles so you can be inside and someone else outside. It is childish game.

[Star Traveler]

You said — “Walter Martin was an ignorant man. Why do you let him do your thinking for you?”

Ummmm..., you had better get into the 21st Century... You’re talking about Ravi Zacharias. He’s the same person that the Mormons invited over to their Mormon Tabernacle, by invitation. He’s very clear in that book that the Mormons are a cult. He’s the one who is in charge of that book now...

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You didn’t reference that book then, if you think it said they were a cult. It doesn’t. It’s considered the authoritative work on the cults for the Christian Church. If you’re going by someone else’s definitions, then you’re probably using someone’s personal opinion, instead of agreed-upon scholarly work....

Study up a bit before you comment on that information... LOL...

[Halgr]

I’m a Christian and I CAN define a cult, and, I don’t need Martin’s help or a FReepers Definition for that matter.

Star Traveler is a threat to you???

[LadyNavyVet]

Catholics do not believe in works salvation. From “Iesu Domini,” the definitive statement on salvation written by Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict) and John Paul II. Iesu Domini, written in 2000, was an attempt by the Pope to put to rest, once and for all, the claim that Catholicism teaches works salvation.

“It must therefore be firmly believed as a truth of Catholic faith that the universal salvific will of the One and Triune God is offered and accomplished once for all in the mystery of the incarnation, death, and resurrection of the Son of God.”

It is an elegant treatise by two eminent Christian theologians, and quite worthwhile reading for any Christian.