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Paul: Fox News is 'scared of me'
Boston Globe ^ | December 29, 2007 | James Pindell

Posted on 12/29/2007 12:26:12 PM PST by StopTheNAU

PLAISTOW, N.H. -- Ron Paul said the decision to exclude him from a debate on Fox News Sunday the weekend before the New Hampshire Primary is proof that the network "is scared" of him.

"They are scared of me and don't want my message to get out, but it will," Paul said in an interview at a diner here. "They are propagandists for this war and I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative."

Paul's staff said they are beginning to plan a rally that will take place at the same time the 90-minute debate will air on television. It will be taped at Saint Anselm College in Goffstown.

"They will not win this skirmish," he promised.

The Fox debate occurs less than 24 hours after two back to back Republican and Democratic debates on the same campus sponsored by ABC News, WMUR-TV and the social networking website Facebook.

Paul, the Republican Texas Congressman, was wrapping up his final day of campaigning in New Hampshire until the Iowa Caucuses on Thursday.

He spent much of the day campaigning at diners in Manchester and Plaistow and downtown walks in Derry and Exeter.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debates; foxnews; gopdebates; marines; nh2008; ronpaul
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To: B Knotts

The top 5 candidates in terms of national polling, that is everyone except Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, and Alan Keyes.


141 posted on 12/29/2007 6:58:33 PM PST by barryg
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The bottom line is that Paul is not going to change his views for them.

That was never a question nor the point.
142 posted on 12/29/2007 7:06:35 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: DB
Trying this again:

Paul is not a Republican.

That's right, he isn't. He's for limited government. No room for that in the modern GOP.

143 posted on 12/29/2007 9:01:39 PM PST by TBP
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To: DFG
Guess you forgot about Rick Warren’s meeting with Bashir Assad in Syria.

Are you sure he wan't trying to convert him? :)

144 posted on 12/29/2007 9:03:11 PM PST by TBP
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To: HereInTheHeartland
It would be a disaster if he won.

Suppose it's him against Hitlery. How do you vote?

145 posted on 12/29/2007 9:04:24 PM PST by TBP
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To: StopTheNAU

Oh, we will win this skirmish dork. The american people aren’t stupid.


146 posted on 12/29/2007 9:06:44 PM PST by Vanbasten
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
Faux News is more like it.

That is exactly what the liberals call it. Thanks for revealing yourself.

You are aware, I assume, that a recent study by the Center for Media and Public Affairs said that Fox had the most balanced news of any network.

Of course, that isn't a very high standard.

147 posted on 12/29/2007 9:09:16 PM PST by TBP
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
when the general election rolls around, you guys are going to call Paul's supporters "traitors" for not voting for the GOP nominee. Politicians do not own anyone's vote.

QFT. But many here think they do.

148 posted on 12/29/2007 9:11:52 PM PST by TBP
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To: gusopol3
I said "don't you go on to claim Paul supported Reagan.

Well, Reagan supported him, FWIW.

149 posted on 12/29/2007 9:12:48 PM PST by TBP
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To: wideawake
Clearly he believed that the Vietnam War was unconstitutional - he has said as much on various occasions.

Isn't any undeclared war unconstitutional?

All Congress had to do was declare war.

150 posted on 12/29/2007 9:13:42 PM PST by TBP
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To: big'ol_freeper

ROFL!! He IS a scary guy!


151 posted on 12/29/2007 9:18:34 PM PST by pinkpanther111 (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: wastedpotential
Would allowing Paul to participate catapult him into the front runner? No, but debate is healthy and I hope Fox News allows Paul, Hunter and even Keyes to participate in their debate.

I would hardly call any of these debates, "debates". They are theatrics and paid political programming.

I think Paulosi should join the Democrat debates myself.

152 posted on 12/29/2007 9:31:17 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: TBP
Isn't any undeclared war unconstitutional?

Of course not.

Just because Congress has constitutional authority to formally declare a state of war between the US and another sovereign nation does not mean that the Executive's ability to render aid to our allies or undertake police actions is limited.

The Constitution guarantees the Executive complete authority over the deployment of US armed forces abroad.

Of course, if he wants money to fund his deployments, he needs Congress to write him a check.

153 posted on 12/30/2007 5:15:15 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the JuConstitution?)
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To: TBP

Ooh, because I don’t like Fox News I’m a lib. Great analysis!


154 posted on 12/30/2007 5:39:30 AM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: barryg
The top 5 candidates in terms of national polling, that is everyone except Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, and Alan Keyes.

Why national polling? National polling is meaningless at this point. In addition, given this is a New Hampshire debate, wouldn't it make more sense to use New Hampshire polls?

If New Hampshire polls are used, the top five (in the RCP average) are: Romney, McCain, Giuliani, Huckabee and Paul.

155 posted on 12/30/2007 8:11:08 AM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: B Knotts

I would agree that Paul should be in the debate if that is the case. I am not sure an official decision has been made by Fox News yet. At least I haven’t seen one.


156 posted on 12/30/2007 8:34:00 AM PST by barryg
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To: barryg

Yes. I can understand the inclination to exclude marginal candidates, but I don’t think Paul, despite his sometimes-odd policy positions, is marginal enough, given that he may well come in third or fourth in New Hampshire.


157 posted on 12/30/2007 8:43:53 AM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: StopTheNAU

Uh, dude—they’ve had you on Cavuto and several other shows. Is your memory THAT bad? Or are you just, as has always been suspected, an attention whore of a level just below that of Hillary?


158 posted on 12/30/2007 8:47:25 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: wideawake
Dr Paul served in the United States Air Force Because he was drafted.

Can Cheney say as much?

159 posted on 12/30/2007 10:44:20 AM PST by jd777
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To: jd777; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Can Cheney say as much?

Presumably you are referring to the Vice President's deferment requests.

An interesting attempt to compare apples with oranges: let's look closer.

Ron Paul was drafted in 1962. At that time, Ron Paul was a medical resident and America was not at war. As Ron Paul himself has pointed out, his position as a flight surgeon permitted him to spend most of his time near his family and his position as a flight surgeon allowed him to continue his career uninterrupted: in point of fact, while his service as flight surgeon counted toward his medical residency it had better hours and higher pay than the civilian residencies available to him.

His service was lucrative and during peacetime.

The Vice President's number came up in 1966, while he had a pregnant wife and while he was working on his doctorate - and while the US was at war.

Unlike Paul he would have had no chance to stay near to home, nor did his civilian career give him the militarily-relevant experience to pick a plum military position safely in the rear.

Military service for Cheney would have meant putting his career on indefinite hold and leaving his wife's side while she was pregnant.

For Paul, military service meant neither of those things.

One can condemn Cheney for seeking deferment, but the historical facts show that Paul was strongly incentivized to embrace the draft, while Cheney was strongly incentivized to defer.

And all this becomes relevant in an election because Paul is running for office while he allows his supporters to scurrilously magnify his military record, as OrthodoxPresbyterian did for months, describing Paul as a "Vietnam combat flight surgeon" and falsely implying that Paul served in combat and that he served in Vietnam, neither of which was true.

The Vice President is not running for office - and while he and Paul both studiously avoided combat during Vietnam, Ron Paul figured out a way to get paid by the government to do so, while the Vice President relied on the private sector and not the taxpayer.

160 posted on 12/30/2007 12:48:23 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the JuConstitution?)
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